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Our Denier-In-Chief Punts While the World Pants

By Kerry Trueman
Image courtesy of United Farm Workers

Is global warming a hazard to your health? Just ask 42 year-old Abdon Felix Garcia, a farm worker in Central California. Oh, wait! You can't, because he died on Wednesday after working in a vineyard in 108 degree heat. And he's just the latest casualty of the heat wave that's gripping California's Central Valley; three other farm workers have died under similar circumstances since May.

Meanwhile, the EPA issued a 588-page federal notice on Friday that, the AP reports, makes "no finding on whether global warming poses a threat to people's health."

That is, like, so bizarre! Because just three weeks ago, the folks at the EPA had concluded that it did, and called for the regulation of greenhouse gases under the auspices of the Clean Air Act.

Three weeks ago I was in Central California myself, to attend my oldest brother's wedding. The day before my departure, when my husband Matt thoughtfully added the weather for Paso Robles to my iPhone, he literally started to shake the phone as if it were broken.

"This can't be right!" he exclaimed; the forecast showed daytime highs ranging from 107 to 110 degrees. On the day of my brother's wedding, the temperature was predicted to hit 108 degrees, so the ceremony, which had been set to take place outside, had to be moved indoors. Why? Because, well, 108 degree heat can be hazardous to your health. Just ask--oh, nevermind.

The LA suburb I grew up in, Woodland Hills (sounds so bucolic, doesn't it?), made the news recently when temperatures there hit a record 109 degrees. My memories of my Valley Girl childhood are filled with disasters: earthquakes, fires, floods, mudslides, Ronald Reagan's ascension from Screen Actors Guild President to Governor of California.

Sometimes the smog was so bad, when I was a kid, the city would issue an alert warning us not to play outdoors. That was normal. But 109 degree weather? Not even close.

In Central California last month, I couldn't get over how horribly dry and brown the hills looked, like the proverbial tinderbox. Grace, my fifteen-year old niece from lush, leafy Larchmont, couldn't either.

"What happens when lightening strikes?" she wondered. Well, Grace, you get hundreds of wildfires raging out of control, is what happens. And more every year, as the Santa Barbara Independent noted last week:

A 2006 study published in Science found that since 1986, the number of major wildfires has increased by 400 percent, and the amount of land these fires burned increased by 600 percent, compared to the period from 1970 to 1986.

Until recently it was often assumed that spiking population growth and expanding land use patterns were mainly to blame for any increase in the number of big fires. But the Science study, which was conducted by researchers at the Scripps Institute and the UC Merced, concluded that these factors have had "relatively little effect." Instead, the authors wrote, the change has come about mainly because summers have gotten longer, hotter, and drier. "The transition has been marked by a shift toward unusually warm springs, longer summer dry seasons, drier vegetation, and longer fire seasons."

Do greenhouse gases contribute to global warming? You can debate that point--if you're a dumbass. But how can you possibly question whether global warming is a hazard to our health? From drought to floods to fires to a rise in pest populations and plant diseases, the world is reeling from the consequences of this fossil-fueled fever.

But it's the Bush administration that's delirious, determined to fight any attempts to regulate greenhouse gases on the grounds that it would damage the U.S. economy and cause too many job losses. So the White House forced the EPA to revise its earlier document, which not only supported regulating greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act but noted, to the Administration's consternation, that there could be a "net benefit to society...in excess of $2 trillion," as the Wall Street Journal reported Friday:

The White House on Thursday rejected EPA's conclusion three weeks earlier that the 1970 Clean Air Act can be both workable and effective for addressing global climate change. Instead, EPA said Friday that law is ''ill-suited'' for dealing with climate change...

...''One point is clear: the potential regulation of greenhouse gases under any portion of the Clean Air Act could result in unprecedented expansion of EPA authority that would have a profound effect on virtually every sector of the economy and touch every household in the land,'' EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson said in a preface to the 588-page federal notice Friday.

As opposed to global warming, which only affects some households? Like the families of the farm workers dropping dead in the fields? Or the folks who've lost their homes in the California wildfires? Or the farmers in the heartland who've lost their crops to floods?

Instead of taking action, the Decider's decided that we need to continue to debate this matter until someone who's even more of a Decider sets up shop in the Oval Office, according to the Guardian:

The US environmental protection agency (EPA) announced today that no action will be taken to regulate carbon emissions while George Bush remains president.

The EPA's decision to sit on its hands comes after months of wrangling between government scientists, who pressed for action in the wake of a landmark US Supreme Court ruling, and White House officials dead set against regulating pollution...

...the EPA forestalled environmental action today with a unique response. Rather than weighing in on how to regulate emissions, agency administrator Stephen Johnson extended the period for public comment on climate change until after Bush leaves office, effectively depositing the problem in the lap of the next president.

OK, so here's my public comment: on behalf of Abdon Felix Garcia and his fellow farm workers who've perished in the scorching Central Valley heat, may I state that global warming is, like, rilly, rilly deadly? Like, seriously? Mister Prezidon't, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the White House, already--you're killing us.

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Ask any Contard.


Record floods, record tornadoes, record wild fires, record high temperatures, skyrocketting extinction rates, unprecedented dramatic changes in local flora and fauna GETTING WORSE, YEAR AFTER YEAR..

... ALL PERFECTLY NORMAL!... just ask any Contard.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 11:20am

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 11:20am

And any contard would answer, but only when said natural disasters happen in "non-contard" areas in say, New Orleans "It's the wrath of GOD for your sinful ways!"

I have yet to find a contard who can answer what natural disasters in the bible belt are called ... but might I suggest ... "It's GOD'S GAY BROTHER'S wrath for your rampant stupidity!"

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 17, 2008 - 12:17pm

And I would love to ask a contard, any contard

Just what would you consider to be proof of climate change? So far, we have seen:

25 years in a row with winter temperatures above the 20th century average
All the hottest years on record have come in the past 20 years
Agricultural records have shown that growing seasons have continually grown longer in northern latitudes
The rate of ice melting in Greenland has reached unprecedented levels
Antarctic ice shelfs that have been stable for hundreds of thousands of years are suddenly disintegrating at an alarming rate
The north pole will likely be icefree this summer for the first time in the last few thousand years
Ice cores going back 800,000 years show that the temperature rise we see is completely unprecedented in speed and magnitude from any previous temperature rise seen in that time period

What else does it take to convince them? Are ever single one of these events totally coincidental, totally unrelated, or total lies? I didn't even bother to spend any time looking up additional things that have been observed. Any scientist (or anyone with a lick of common sense) would conclude that all these things are related, and have a common root cause. The only thing that has changed in that time period is the amount of greenhouse gases in the air, and the only new source is human activity.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 12:58pm

All this global warming

All this global warming nonsense is the result of environmental alarmist nutjobs!

Those ice cores have a liberal agenda!

What will it take to convince them? Not until a real "expert" like Rush or Hannity tells them it is real will they believe it. Start holding your breath now....

-- McCain = Four more years of the same --

By dtaylo75July 17, 2008 - 1:18pm

No wonder the world shakes it collective head and laughs

at us. We went from a nation respected for its dedication to human rights and freedom, a nation that led the world in science and technology, to a nation that denies science at every chance it can get, tortures in the name of "freedom", puts a million people on a terror watch list, uses illegal wiretaps to listen in on their conversations, invades a nation under the guise of getting rid of WMD and spreading democracy to hide the role of oil, and has become the biggest debtor nation in the history of the planet.

Could someone just please put us out of the world's misery? Our self-inflicted fatal wounds are taking too long to finish us off. Our lingering death is pulling the rest of the world down with us.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 1:37pm

I see it with my own eyes.


I own properties at 40° North latitude and 44° North latitude AND THE CHANGE IN THE FLORA, IN JUST THE LAST DECADE, CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS ASTOUNDING.

... FUCKING ASTOUNDING... and all bad.

I'm on the verge of giving up trying to beat back the four species of non-indiginous invasive vines that been able to establish themselves and flurish, now that we no longer have annual sub-zero periods.

One is a Kudzu-like woody vine that overcomes deciduous trees, killing them for lack of light, until all that is left is a dead forest covered by a single-species mat of vine.

It's a goddamn shame... This formerly sub-alpine environment was so beautiful once.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 1:30pm

I moved north to MN in part to try and stay ahead of

climate change. So far no kudzu, thank god. I had enough of that crap when I lived in VA.

We had a fairly cold winter this year, at least compared to what people have gotten used to in the last few years. It was scary to later find out that this was what would have been considered an average to mild winter just 50 years ago.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 1:41pm

What? I thought Rush promised that

What? I thought Rush promised that the warmer temperatures would help save people from dying of cold! What gives? Must have been a homeless Lib loafer who died. Quick George! Scare us to death! Convince the NASCARites that Dems want to take away Kyle Petty and Junior, not to mention our guns!

By blogbobJuly 17, 2008 - 1:26pm

And...

They's a-gonna force your pastor to perform them thar homosexual marriages! Quick, all you patriotic dittoheads! Surround your family with a gun in one hand, a Bah-bull in t'other, and a cross gripped in your prehensile tail!

You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury

By LiberalIconoclastJuly 17, 2008 - 4:42pm

I feel so bad for the

I feel so bad for the farmworkers. They work so hard. They literally run on the job all day long, trying to make enough money to feed their families. Add the heat--well...
We had three days of 108+ degree weather here on the coast last month, in an area where the average temperatures in summer hover in the mid-70's. Few people have air conditioning. The first day I was quite sick even though I stayed indoors, where the temperature hit 90 degrees. No relief.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower

By MichtouJuly 17, 2008 - 11:28am

Things Liberals Like Which Hurt The Environment By see-dubya

Don Surber notes that it’s always things liberals dislike, things freighted with consumerist guilt, that the green left protests against the loudest. Meanwhile arugula…doesn’t, though it should.

It’s a well established pattern everybody gripes about SUV’s; nobody gripes about pickup trucks even though they get about the same lousy gas mileage. I think it’s because environitwits know instinctively that pickup drivers are immune to their green guilt, whereas suburban SUV-drivers might be more susceptible to it.

But Surber doesn’t stop at arugula. What else do liberal hippies love that hurts the environment?

Likewise, smoking marijuana. Besides carbon dioxide, it releases all sorts of carcinogens.

Protest marching also is dangerous to the environment. Signs are made with paper, which kills trees. Transportation to the site also releases carbon dioxide.

…

Now to write this up into a proposal and get my grant from the National Science Foundation. Hey, maybe I can get a MacArthur Grant for the genius behind this.
There’s actually much more on drugs and the environment: I’m already there on the marijuana, deforestation. But how about Ecstasy, favorite of of the club scene? Pop a tab, kill a tree. Cocaine? Decimating the rain forests. Opium? Same thing. Meth Labs? Don’t get me started.

However, I’m sure that all of these illicit drug manufacturers are buying carbon credits to offset their horrendous environmental damage. If not, conscientious liberals will no doubt abstain from using controlled substances until they clean up their act.

Still, that’s a pretty good effort from Don. Maybe not lefty-activist enough for a MacArthur Genius Grant, but it’s certainly good enough for a prestigious See-Dubya Genius Grant:

Now, somebody please give him half a million dollars, okay? Thanks

By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 11:50am

By spammer haety July 17, 2008 - 11:50am

He just continues. More plagiarism. Several times today alone this spammer has posted material and not given a reference. Mark these and send to Air America. Ask them when they ban him to check his IP address against those of other "users" as they will surely find several sock puppets. Ban them all.

By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:55am

here's the source

http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2008/07/06/arugula-causes-global-wa...

By Hillary-McCain-08July 17, 2008 - 12:16pm

www.bloomberg.com

The $11 billion in annual subsidies given by the United States, Europe and Canada for plant-based biofuels isn’t doing much to reduce carbon emissions according to a report by the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development. They go on to say that carbon emissions from vehicles in areas where the subsidies are received are looking at a total carbon reduction of 0.8% by 2015. Another failed attempt by the environmentalists to jack up food prices, starve the poor and not reduce carbon emissions.

By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 11:52am

nobody ever suggested

that bio-fuels would lower carbon emissions. The do however lower the need for imported oil. That said, I agree that corn is the worst possible way to do it and is responsible in part for rising food prices.

By gt6July 17, 2008 - 1:32pm

IPCC Drastically Overstated CO2 Effect on Temperature

A mathematical proof that climate change is a hoax appeared yesterday in a peer-reviewed paper Physics and Society. 30 equations used by the IPCC were demonstrated and showed that even doubling the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere for the rest of the century only caused a one degree Fahrenheit increase in temperatures, not the predicted six degrees. The IPCC’s 2007 climate summary over predicted carbon dioxide’s impact on temperature between 500% and 2000%. The reactions of the IPCC and Al Gore were not printed in the article.

www.transworldnews.com

By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 11:54am

OH BULLSHIT!!


THE AUTHOR HAS ABSOLUTELY NO FORMAL SCIENTIFIC EDUCATION WHATSOEVER... NONE!

This asshole is a product of the British peerage system having inherited his wealth and title of "Lord" when daddy died.

He is a KOOK of the first order who has suggested that the solution to the global aids crisis IS TO TEST EVERYONE ON EARTH AND LOCK UP THOSE INFECTED FOREVER.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 1:59pm

Bush always punts

His whole life he has relied on Saudi Princes to bail him out.

By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 11:56am

More Hypocrisy from the Environmentalists

Home Latest NOAA Press Release in Total Disagareement with NASA Satellite
Written by Joseph S. D’Aleo, CCM, Fellow of the AMS
Wednesday, 16 July 2008

It was the eighth warmest June on record for the globe, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported Wednesday in the 129 years since records were begun in 1880. And the first six months of the year were the ninth warmest since record keeping began in 1880, NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center reported. The planets average temperature for June was 60.8 degrees Fahrenheit, 0.9 degrees warmer than average for the month.

DON’T BELIEVE A WORD OF IT. Just a few days ago, the University of Alabama, Hunstville came out with their global assessment and they reported the 22nd warmest in the 30 years of recrods in their data base (in other words the 9th coldest). In fact, their global mean was actually below the average (base period 1979-1998) with a value of -0.11C (-0.19F).

NASA MSU June Temperatures since 1979. See larger one here.

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By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 11:56am

By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 11:56am

garbage

speaking of satellites there is one in a closet in NASA that would measure the planetary albedo from a lagrange point. It would answer a lot of questions.

Bush and the republicans won't launch it. They won't let other countries launch it for us.

By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 12:02pm

source

Since spammer doesn't leave sources, I'll fill them in. This one is from the reputable townhall.com:

http://robertsteely.blogtownhall.com/2008/07/16/noaa_drops_all_pretense_...

By Hillary-McCain-08July 17, 2008 - 12:13pm

that explains

why he didn't cite it. The hatemonger never had much credibility.

By gt6July 17, 2008 - 1:34pm

Hurricane forecaster William Gray says global warming is grossly

exaggerated" Written by KEN KAYE, Sun-Sentinel
Wednesday, 16 July 2008

The studies continue to mount: global warming is likely to blame for producing more powerful hurricanes and endangering the earth's ecosystems.
Nonsense, William Gray said Tuesday.

"There's been so much hype," the Colorado State University storm prognosticator said. "But I don't think there's a real problem. I think global warming has been grossly exaggerated."

Speaking at the University of Miami's Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science on Virginia Key, Gray said humans play little or no role in global warming. He said he has been "appalled" by claims that global warming is on the verge of causing great destruction, such as in Al Gore's movie "An Inconvenient Truth."

Because the U.S. government is taking substantial steps to reduce greenhouse emissions by cutting the use of fossil fuels, it's imperiling the economy, Gray told an audience of about 200, mostly college students. The problem, he said, is that fossil fuels will be sorely needed for the next four to five decades.

Gray's assertions conflict with several government and university studies indicating that humans have played a significant role in global warming through the production of greenhouse gases. Other studies have linked the gradual warming of the air and water to more powerful hurricanes.

For instance, Kerry Emanuel, an atmospheric sciences professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, has found that the energy in the average hurricane increased by about 70 percent in the past 30 years. Gray contends such studies are based on computer simulations that are "all wrong."

Gray also lashed out at the media for creating unnecessary public "hysteria" over global warming.

Al Tompkins, who teaches broadcast and online journalism at the Poynter Institute, a school for journalists in St. Petersburg, said there were too many media outlets for him to judge whether they acting irresponsibly on the issue. On the other hand, Tompkins said, in light of government studies indicating global warming is genuine, the issue is a legitimate one for the media.

"My gut reaction tells me the majority of the reporting shows that global warming is an emerging crisis type of story and that it's man-made more than not," he said. "If we don't excited about that, then what?"

Gray, along with research partner Phil Klotzbach, has become known for developing projections of how many storms will form during a given hurricane season, a field he pioneered and that has put him in the middle of the global warming debate.

For years, the plain-speaking Gray has dismissed warnings of melting polar ice, rising sea levels and more turbulent storm seasons as "so much foolishness." While conceding the planet is indeed warming, Gray maintains that it is the result of a natural cycle of warming and cooling caused by the circulation of the oceans.

"My projection is that in 15 to 20 years, we'll probably undergo a modest cooling," he said Tuesday. Source

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By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 11:58am

This one is all over the

This one is all over the web. My favorite was remembergod.com. Don't tell me God thinks its OK to pollute.
And my favortie line from the article is this: "The problem, he [William Gray] said, is that fossil fuels will be sorely needed for the next four to five decades."
This seems to be an insult to the supposedly technologically advanced, hard working, can-do-anything Americans. Can't we ween ourselves off fossil fuels quicker than four or five decades??

I really can't understand why the "conservatives" (that word is so inappropriate on so many levels) are so against the idea of stopping the pollution of our world. Anyone have any ideas?

By Hillary-McCain-08July 17, 2008 - 12:26pm

Mr. Gray is wrong.


Further, his repeated attempts to get his nonsense past PEER REVIEW have met with failure with his offerings being described as "not up to standard".

Mr. Gray is a Hurricane expert, and hence an ocean current expert, who wants to blame our extraordinay warming on shifting ocean currents.

This is a case of "To a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail".

Mr. Gray's views are NOT successfully peer reviewed and represent those OF A TINY MINORITY.

Sorry... Try again.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 1:31pm

What Bush has done

You see Bush has destroyed our economy. He has set it in a downward spiral that we are not likely to recover from.

At the same time he has abandoned any real effort to develop new energy sources. As Europe and Asia work towards this we will fall further behind.

A decade or two from now other nations will be in the possession of more efficient power sources and benefiting from them. We will be left behind and it will be difficult for us to even purchase this technology when our dollar is worth nothing thanks to Bush.

We will look like a third world country in comparison.

By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 12:00pm

It's even worse

By the time BushCo gets done draining the US Treasury and moves off to his new ranch in Paraguay, the former United States will be the largest third-world country on the face of the dying planet. But why should he care? He'll still have his money...even though it won't actually BUY anything by that time.

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 12:04pm

So this is the first time in

So this is the first time in history that it's reached 108 degrees in the middle of summer in California? Weather related deaths go down nearly every year, so if anything, "man made" global warming is saving lives!!

What a load of bullshit, this "man made" global warming craze is insanity, I can't believe how many people buy into this shit. The man made global warming scare is nothing more than governments' attempts to further control people's day to day lives. It's an excuse to raise taxes, nothing more. It's the monster in the closet. It is a liberal Devil and Algore is their God.

It wasn't too long ago that there was a deadly ice age coming our way, it was going to kill us all. I know, I know, the libs will say "but we're 'rilly, rilly' sure this time, the science is so much more accurate now than it was in the 70's." Oh bullshit I say to that, what happens in 25 years when the science is better than it is now? I wonder what the libs will be saying is going to kill us all then?? Will the future's science prove today's science to be full of shit, just as today's science apparently does to the science of the 70's?

Probably.

By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 2:24pm

Yeah, whatever.


snooze-city, man... You're a bore.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 2:35pm

By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 2:24pm

So this is the first time in history that it's reached 108 degrees in the middle of summer in California?

Let's thank frogg for his participation. We have several nice parting gifts for him. Next contestant please.

By f u bush2July 17, 2008 - 2:35pm

I'd like to introduce you

I'd like to introduce you all to "bannedfrogg", leader of the local chapter of the "Flat Earth" society.

On the agenda for this month's meeting:

1. Leeches - The future of the medicinal arts
2. Steam Power - Is it just a passing fad?
3. The Horseless Carriage - 10 reasons why it will never catch on

-- McCain = Four more years of the same --

By dtaylo75July 17, 2008 - 2:42pm

Upcoming discussion topics.


1) Electricity... Sprites or Fairies?

2) Vapours or Humours? - What's behind VD?

3) Recent Alchemy Breakthroughs - Are we on the verge of limitless riches?

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 4:01pm

Once again, your ignorant denials don't change facts

You constantly make the same stupid error. Weather is NOT climate. A single day means nothing. A single week is insignificang. Climate is LONG-TERM trends. Why has the US had 25 winters in a row with above normal temps? Why has the growing season lengthened in northern latitudes over the past century? Why is the Greenland icecap melting faster than at any time in history? Why have Antarctic ice shelfs, which have been in existence for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years, suddenly begun disintegrating? Why have all the hottest years on record in the US occured in the past 20 years?

You can't answer, because you know any answer you give will be instantly laughed to pieces. Tell me where the money comes from in putting out the warning on global warming. Who becomes a billionaire by doing so? Al Gore? As we both know, he was doing well financially before he ever began talking about global warming, so the monetary angle doesn't work there. Scientists? I'll let you in on a little secret sparky: scientists aren't out to become rich. They do scientific studies because they are curious, and they do research to address topics about which they are curious. Tax revenues for the government? The last time we had a budget surplus was under democrat Bill Clinton, and he did it all without a dime coming from global warming legislation.

You're right, there isn't a damn thing that we know now that we didn't know 25 years ago. Information and knowledge and technology are completely static. We had the technology to build the F-22 25 years ago, right? The crap story about scientists predicting an ice age 25 years ago is just that----crap. NO ONE ever predicted we were heading into an ice age. A recent look back at 1970s scientific journals showed that 7 predicted global cooling, 20 were neutral and 44 predicted GLOBAL WARMING. In other words, even over 30 years ago, most scientists were seeing evidence of GLOBAL WARMING.

And I almost forgot.....BWAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAA BWAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!

You ignorant righties make it so damn easy it isn't even much of a challenge anymore. I bitchslapped your buddy Davey over and over again yesterday, wiping the floor with him like a used mop. Now it's nice to see that you've kindly stepped in to take his place. Now where did I put that bucket of Spic and Span?

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 2:49pm

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAPPPPP!!

Good one, Suave ...

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 17, 2008 - 2:58pm

All I can say is, contards like him are a dime a dozen

and I'm looking for the idiot who's supplying the dimes!

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 3:06pm

The RNC!!

I was rummaging through the posts yesterday and noticed that these mental midgets are getting as steamed up as Phil Gramm's glasses do when watching his latest "investment"!

Seriously, though, the desperation is pretty pathetic. Actually, if I was a nicer person, I'd be embarrassed FOR them.

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 17, 2008 - 3:20pm

Well, you are a nice person, so I think that you probably

are embarrassed for them, but have the good sense not to show it too often.

Every time I see McCain forget basic things, like where he is, or which football team he lied to his interrogators about, I do feel embarrassed for him (after I get done laughing). Every time Bush stumbles over a word that the average second grader can handle fluently, I feel embarrassed for him ( after quieting the bellylaughs). These are the "best" the repubs have to offer. We must feel embarrassed for them, as they seem to be unable to experience any human emotions, even embarrassment.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 3:30pm

Courteous, lady, aren't I?!

I do have my limits on how embarrassed I am for these morons, I can only forgive blissful ignorance to a point.

Speaking of McSame's "memory", where the fuck is the MSM on this? Can you IMAGINE if Obama fumbled stupidly on a question about birth control? Couldn't tell the difference between Sunni and Shiite? When he blatantly lies and then tries to backpedal??

I do have to give Joe Biden MANY kudos when he correctly stated that while he respects McSame's military service, we don't need a war hero for president, we need a person of WISDOM, and questioned McSame's wisdom in that he has firmly embraced Monkey Boy's failed foreign policies. And, it was a nice, little bitch-slap he gave McSame when he said that while he's been to Iraq more times than McSame, he certainly wouldn't call himself more qualified. This McSame's more qualified on foreign policy just because he's been to an outdoor market in Baghdad a few times bullshit is ... bullshit.

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 17, 2008 - 4:43pm

His "response" on birth control was unbelievable

I can't recall ever seeing a politician just stand and stare and gape as McCain did when asked that question. When his aged brain and mouth finally got together, he was actually able to make it WORSE. The more I see of McCain, the more convinced I am that a historic dem landslide is making its way down the mountain, soon to bury repubs way over their heads. I am so grateful that they were able to choose a candidate that even THEY don't support! The only way it could have been better would have been if Clueless Fred had gotten the nod. Anyone know if he's available to be VP? I can see it now---old and clueless teams with older and even more clueless.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 4:51pm

He truly is more like Monkey Boy, every day.

It was like looking at Monkey Boy's expression when he was told we were under attack .. classic "deer caught in the headlights". Pretty pathetic, really.

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 17, 2008 - 5:32pm

Hey bannedfrogg

Have you noticed that these hypocrits have changed the WAR CRY, from Global Warming to Climate Change? I think they're just trying to cover their respective asses. Climate change can cover anything from rising temps to lower temps.

The fact is, we are experiencing climate change. From hot to cold. We have been in a warming cycle for thousands of years, and now we are returning to a natural cooler period. This will effect climate, throughout the world. As it has always done, for billions of years. Nothing new. Except now, we have a bunch of KNOW NOTHINGS, getting hysterical about it.

By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 3:35pm

As President Shit Pants used to say

"There you go again". You have absolutely no facts to back up what you are saying, so you just pull them out of your ass. There is no evidence that states we are cooling. All evidence points to the contrary. I won't bother bitchslapping you with everything I used against shithedd, as I will go out on a limb and assume that you can read and use a scroll wheel. Mighty big assumption, I know, but I have faith that you can master both of those tasks if you just take your time and concentrate.

Why do we say climate change? Because morons like you couldn't understand the concept of global warming, so we had to use a term that perhaps even you can comprehend. The climate is CHANGING, hence "global climate change.

The only know nothings are mouth breathers like you.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 3:54pm

It's not a change at all.

It's not a change at all. It's just using a more generic term. Much more is happening that is fucked up on this planet's environment beyond global warming. Actually global warming is really one specific symptom of the overall global climate change.

So you have evidence that flies in the fact of scientific consensus that actually says that we are cooling? Really, you should go with that feeling. Maybe you can join Froggy in the Flat Earth Society.

-- McCain = Four more years of the same --

By dtaylo75July 17, 2008 - 4:27pm

I've got a nice long PDF document that analyzes the myth

of the "cooling earth" that is so much in vogue with the reality deniers. Best of all, it's a peer-reviewed scientific paper! Maybe that's something Tim Ball should learn about someday.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 4:33pm

Wow, you are way off! We are

Wow, you are way off! We are in the middle of global warming right now. In just the past 6 months the average daily temperature in the United States has risen by over 30 degrees! Why, just a short 6 months ago much of North America was covered with snow, now, thanks to mankind alone, the snow is GONE forever! If current trends continue, it will get to 140 degrees in Detroit by December! The oceans will be boiling by next July if we don't sacrifice productivity to the Algore god immediately! Why do you want everyone to die?

By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 5:21pm

YET MORE POINTLESS DRIVEL.


Wow. You're really on a roll.

It's easy to see you're from Texas... Never seen so much mindless bullshit from one person on a single thread.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 5:43pm

reply to bannedfrogg

Yikes!!

So many words that serve only reveal your lack of objectivity, critical thinking skills and useful vocabulary!

If you care about the future, you might want to at least consider that our planet is suffering and that maybe we can love our life here on planet earth enough to choose to attend to it's long term health.

Your hard headed biases just might put your grand kids in harms way!

Take off your blinders!

By nobush3peatJuly 17, 2008 - 3:45pm

Go hug a Tree,

Or better yet, stop contributing to the problem by removing yourself from the planet.

You don't hold the moral high ground, in this debate.

By fu bush3July 17, 2008 - 3:55pm

Saying we don't hold the moral high ground in this debate

is like Hitler saying the Jews don't hold the moral high ground at Auschwitz.

By UffdaguyJuly 17, 2008 - 3:59pm

No, actually it is NOTHING

No, actually it is NOTHING like that at all. Your comparison clearly illustrates the cheap alarmist tactics that your side seems to have no problem resorting to. How many feet did Algore say the oceans were going to rise?

And I would appreciate it if people would stop using Auschwitz to justify their bullshit, my grandfather died in Auschwitz so it isn't fucking funny. My grandmother was devastated when she found out he fell out of that guard tower.

By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 5:12pm

found out he fell out of that guard tower.

I'll be sure to ask my family to say a prayer for him ... after they finish saying their prayers for my family members who died in the gas chambers, you piece of cockroach shit.

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 17, 2008 - 5:30pm

I know! Isn't it disgusting

I know! Isn't it disgusting how they will use our tragedies to push their junk science! What a piece of shit that guy is.

I find it amusing that someone that quotes joke thief Mencia on every post gets all pissy about a jew joke.

By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 6:05pm

Yes, you are disgusting. Thanks for - again - proving it.

Carlos calls them like he see's them ... he's a c-o-m-e-d-i-a-n. And, it sounds like a personal problem for you if you take offense with his joke because you and that whore of a nag wife of yours are the kind to go shopping at Wal-Mart for your tighty-whiteys, or underroos, whatever you cover that stump of a dick you have, with.

However, you pussy, since I've lost family members in the Holocaust, I have every right to be "pissy", as you so eloquently put it. Your "joke" is tasteless, insensitive and offensive and proves what a tasteless, insensitive and offensive waste of human flesh you are.

Fuck you and that whore of a nag you rode in on, scumbag.

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 18, 2008 - 9:38am

Ok, so it's fine to tell

Ok, so it's fine to tell racial and religious jokes as the joke thief Mencia does, but only if they aren't about pukey's family?!?!?

typical liberal hypocritical bullshit. Don't be such a pussy.

How many of pukey's family members can you fit in a Volkswagen?

50, but only if you put them in the ashtray!

By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 1:55pm

Answer me this

Why is it that repubs have to prove they have no soul before they can be a member of the party?

If there is one thing in common that seems to link all repubs and their policies, it is the total lack of compassion they display for anyone. They seem to all be selfish, narcissistic louts that excel only at greed and crassness. You have proven that you are a true repub with the above remark. Reminds me of Bush as governor, who mocked a crying mother who had begged him to spare her son the death penalty. Sick, sick, sick.

By UffdaguyJuly 18, 2008 - 2:26pm

By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 1:55pm

Here is frogg's game. He'll take a meaningless topic like his outrage over the state of humor in this country and what he perceives as unfairness and spend a month arguing about it if you are willing.

By f u bush2July 18, 2008 - 2:29pm

It's sad to see a young child with no soul

I hope he begins to find some happiness when school starts again in a few weeks. It must be painful for him to be the only 20 year-old 5th grader.

By UffdaguyJuly 18, 2008 - 2:46pm

By bannedfroggJuly 18, 2008 - 1:55pm

Herein lies the difference, you piece of rat filth - Mencia is a PAID comedian - it's his career, whereas you get paid to clean toilets. Stick to the day job, pussy - comedy is not your forte.

Well, since I'm a woman, you've correctly identified my sex organs - what's your excuse for the vagina you've got, cocksucker?

How very imaginative of you "pukey" ... yawn.

Have I told you lately to drop fucking dead? If not, drop dead.

“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia

By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 9:13am

ALARMIST??

Hey, I'm just repeating what THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WORLD'S BEST SCIENTISTS ARE SAYING.
.

By A GJuly 17, 2008 - 5:40pm

You are parroting what the

You are parroting what the worlds best paid scientists are saying, nothing more. If they told the truth about global warming their funding would disappear and they would lose their jobs.

By bannedfroggJuly 17, 2008 - 6:10pm

You're projecting again

Have you ever heard the phrase "peer-reviewed"?

No?

Neither have those ExxonMobil-funded "scientists" you seem so fond of.

If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith

By nonexistent manJuly 17, 2008 - 7:19pm

Those best paid scientists

make in a year what the CEO of Exxon makes in a day. So who's got motive to lie?

By gt6July 18, 2008 - 10:57am

He obviously doesn't have a clue as to what scientists do

and why they do it. I have never met a scientist who was in it for the money. In fact, they'd make a hell of a lot more if they were engineers for a large company.

By UffdaguyJuly 18, 2008 - 11:00am

And even then

my math would hold up.

By gt6July 18, 2008 - 11:01am

That's only because you're not using the patented

repub fuzzy math, where record budget deficits are GOOD for the economy, where slowest job growth in decades is "strong" job growth, where a recession is only "mental".

By UffdaguyJuly 18, 2008 - 11:27am

You couldn't be more wrong.


You're not just wrong, but STUNNINGLY WRONG.

Further, it is typical Contard projection. You know the global warming deniers (at least the ones Contards like you always quote) are paid industry SHILLS so you assume legitimate scientists must be too... WRONG!

I've tried to explain to you what "science" is several times now, but it hasn't sunk in... because you're a fucking Contard.

I know it's beyond your comprehension, but there actually are people in this world that value truth and knowledge above money.

Legitimate scientists are like fighter-jocks in this sense: There are a LOT of easier ways to make a lot more money than becoming a fighter-jock. Same with scientists (especially young ones). But it's not about money (insane! eh, froggy?!), It's about ego, it's about being the best... it's about making it to the top of the heap.

You are one stupid, gullible son-of-a-bitch, froggy. Truth is, I don't give a flying fuck what you believe because this particular crisis IS GOING TO FIND YOU. You can't buy your way out of it and you can't shoot it... You can't bully it and you can't destroy it with character assasination.

It's coming to your house froggy and there's no place to hide.

By A GJuly 18, 2008 - 11:52am