Lick A Shot For Barack Obama, Change Gon’ Come-a
Obama in Afghanistan and Kuwait. Some footage courtesy of the AP. You respect the one that got shot but Obama respects the shooter.
I think it's fair to say that Democrats rarely, if ever, get the kind of enthusiastic-to-jubilant reception on military bases that Obama received.
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The War Between the Wars
Who says we can only face our enemies in one place at a time?
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, July 14, 2008, at 11:07 AM ET
An American soldier in Iraq. Click image to expandAn American soldier in Iraq
If there is one element of moral and political certainty that cements the liberal consensus more than any other, it is the complacent view that while Iraq is "a war of choice," it is really and only Afghanistan that is a war of necessity. The ritualistic solidity of this view is impressive. It survives all arguments and all evidence. Just in the last month, as the Iraqi-based jihadists began to beat a retreat and even (according to some reports) to attempt to relocate to Afghanistan and Pakistan, it still seemed to many commentators that this proved that no U.S. forces should have been wasted on Iraq in the first place. This simplistic view ignores, at a minimum, the following points:
1. Many of the al-Qaida forces—most notably the horrific but now deceased Abu Musab al-Zarqawi—made their way to Iraq in the first place only after being forcibly evicted from Afghanistan. Thus, if one did not want to be confronting Bin Laden fans in Mesopotamia, it was surely a mistake to invade Afghanistan rather than Iraq.
2. The American presence in Afghanistan is not at all "unilateral"; it meets every liberal criterion of being formally underwritten and endorsed and armed and reinforced by our NATO and U.N. allies. Indeed, the commander of the anti-Taliban forces is usually not even an American. Yet it is in these circumstances that more American casualties—and not just American ones—are being experienced than are being suffered in Iraq. If this is so, the reason cannot simply be that our resources are being deployed elsewhere.
3. Many of the most successful drives against the Taliban have been conducted by American forces redeployed from Iraq, in particular from Anbar province. But these military victories are the result of counterinsurgent tactics and strategies that were learned in Iraq and that have been applied triumphantly in Afghanistan.
In other words, any attempt to play off the two wars against each other is little more than a small-minded and zero-sum exercise. And consider the implications. Most people appear now to believe that it is quite wrong to mention Saddam Hussein even in the same breath as either a) weapons of mass destruction or b) state-sponsored terrorism. I happen to disagree, but just for an experiment, let us imagine that some regime did exist or did arise that posed such a combination of threats. (Actually, so feverish is my imagination that I can even think of one whose name also begins with I.) Would we be bound to say, in public and in advance, that the Western alliance couldn't get around to confronting such a threat until it had Afghanistan well under control? This would be rather like the equivalent fallacy that nothing can be done in the region until there is a settlement of the Israel-Palestine dispute. Not only does this mean that every rogue in the region can reset his timeline until one of the world's oldest and most intractable quarrels is settled, it also means that every rogue has an incentive to make certain that no such settlement can ever occur. (Which is, of course, why Saddam threw, and now the Iranians throw, their support to the suicide-murderers.)
It would also be very nice to accept another soft-centered corollary of the Iraq vs. Afghanistan trade-off and to believe that the problem of Afghanistan is a problem only of the shortage of troops. Strangely, this is not the view of the Afghan government or of any of the NATO forces on the ground. The continued and, indeed, increasing insolence of the Taliban and its al-Qaida allies is the consequence of one thing and one thing only. These theocratic terrorists know that they have a reliable backer in the higher echelons of the Pakistani state and of its military-intelligence complex and that while this relationship persists, they are assured of a hinterland across the border and a regular supply of arms and recruits.
So, the question for Sen. Barack Obama and his glib supporters is this: Would they solve this problem by removing the American forces from Iraq and putting the thereby-enhanced contingent there to patrol a frontier where one of our main "allies" is continually engaged in stabbing them in the back? (At one point last year, Obama himself appeared to accept the illogic of his own position and spoke hotly of the possibility of following the Taliban onto Pakistani soil. We haven't heard much of that lately. Did he mean to say that, come to think of it, we had enough troops to occupy three countries instead of the stipulated and solitary one? Or would he just exchange Iraq for Pakistan? At least we do know for sure that Pakistan has nuclear weapons acquired mainly by piracy and is the host and patron of the Taliban and al-Qaida.)
Another consideration obtrudes itself. If it is true, as yesterday's three-decker front-page headline in the New York Times had it, that "U.S. Considering Stepping Up Pace of Iraq Pullout/ Fall in Violence Cited/ More Troops Could Be Freed for Operations in Afghanistan," then this can only be because al-Qaida in Iraq has been subjected to a battlefield defeat at our hands—a military defeat accompanied by a political humiliation in which its fanatics have been angrily repudiated by the very people they falsely claimed to be fighting for. If we had left Iraq according to the timetable of the anti-war movement, the situation would be the precise reverse: The Iraqi people would now be excruciatingly tyrannized by the gloating sadists of al-Qaida, who could further boast of having inflicted a battlefield defeat on the United States. I dare say the word of that would have spread to Afghanistan fast enough and, indeed, to other places where the enemy operates. Bear this in mind next time you hear any easy talk about "the hunt for the real enemy" or any loose babble that suggests that we can only confront our foes in one place at a time.
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By fu bush3July 20, 2008 - 5:39pmBy hatey spammer July 20, 2008 - 5:39pm
no link
more spam
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:46pmThe killfile must be working
The thread said there was a new comment posted, but when I go to read it, it doesn't show up. Must be it was posted by someone in my killfile. That tells me it's working again. Good. I was getting tired of wading through all the crap the sockpuppets were spewing.
The First Amendment is a wonderful thing. The g0p sheeple-trolls are free to spread their anti-American hate speech, and I'm free to ignore it, with technology on my side. Gods bless America!
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 20, 2008 - 5:52pmLearn from your parents' mistakes - use birth control!
As an outsider, what do you think of the human race?
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By leftysrsickJuly 20, 2008 - 6:00pmLearn from your parents' mistakes - use birth control!
As an outsider, what do you think of the human race?
By leftysrsickJuly 20, 2008 - 6:00pm
This clown does not have one original thought in his head! He's so lame even plagiarizes his insults!
Plagiarized from here;
http://www.edto.net/insult_humor.htm
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By othelloJuly 20, 2008 - 6:57pmI'd call you a tool, but even THEY serve a purpose..
what are you gonna do about it , scratch your arm pits and eat bananas?
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By leftysrsickJuly 20, 2008 - 7:29pmDrop dead, hatemoron. Isn't it time for you to be
banned, again?
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 9:58amBy othelloJuly 20, 2008 - 6:57pm
Nice catch.
It's time for hatey to go AGAIN. Hopefully this will do it.
He's doing nothing but trolling around and posting spam and meaningless attacks.
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:26pmHehe...BUSTED!
He can't even come up with his own insults, huh? And I'll bet he wonders why he now resides on my killfile.
I submitted my edits to the originator of the script. I hope he decides to add them to the general-release version so more people here can make use of it.
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 20, 2008 - 8:33pmBy nonexistent manJuly 20, 2008 - 8:33pm
That would be great. We could post on every thread a link to the script so everyone can easily get it. Without the spammer this board will be much more easy to read.
Actually that would be a nice addition to the account settings. A list of other users and you select a check box to ignore the posts from that user. Then the moderator doesn't have to bother banning.
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:38pmObama's gaining support both at home and abroad
When Cowboy-hat Oathbreaker visits the troops, the officers have to give troops orders: "Applaud or you're on convoy duty for a month."
I saw the clip. I haven't seen that sort of enthusiastic reception since Emeril cooked for the troops at Ft. Dix!
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 20, 2008 - 6:06pmDid you really get hit by an on coming parked car?
if it wasn't for your butt plug, i wouldn't hear a word you said
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By leftysrsickJuly 20, 2008 - 7:33pmLiar
The troops don't need to be ordered to applaud. They do it because they believe in their mission. They haven't forgotten 9-11 like you libs have. They're still pissed about it and want the enemy dead. Just like I do and a lot of americans do. They're almost done and this war will be won, even though you want us to lose. Too bad. Hopefully, if Obama gets elected, he doesn't cut and run and be a Jimmy Carter, Al-Qaida's bitch boy.
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By moneyosJuly 20, 2008 - 8:01pmCall 1-800-WHI-NERR, you delusional fuck.
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 10:00amSo then...
Does this mean you're going to man up and ENLIST, you fucking pussy?
http://www.goarmy.com
http://www.goarmyreserve.com
http://www.1800goguard.com
http://www.marines.com
The next sound you hear will be Tommy crying for his mommy. But of course she's working the day shift at the "massage parlor."
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 21, 2008 - 8:48pmYou talked me into it
I'm joining the army!
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By moneyosJuly 22, 2008 - 12:30amYeah right.
Buck-buck buck-CAW, republiCUNT.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 22, 2008 - 2:34amHmmm...
Interesting. The comment count keeps climbing, but I only see one new one. Must be the sheeple-trolls I put into my killfile are posting. I'll bet sockpuppets(R)sick is one of them, too. I wonder how he likes being BANNED, even if it's just from my screen?
If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. ~~~John Kenneth Galbraith
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By nonexistent manJuly 20, 2008 - 8:20pmThat's right
bury your head in the sand. If you ignore Al-Qaida, they'll go away.......
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By moneyosJuly 20, 2008 - 8:23pmIf you ignore Al-Qaida, they'll go away.....
Yeah, Monkey Boy figured if he ignored the REAL threat Al Qaeda posed in Afghanistan, they would go away ... tsk, tsk. Seems like Monkey Boy "cut and ran" from Afghanistan to "stay the course" in Iraq.
Great plan Monkey Boy had, huh yo-yo?
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 9:52amENLIST, Traitor!
Didn't think so. Chickenshit. Not really much of a man, are you , Tommy?
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 21, 2008 - 8:50pmhey, moneyos
Isn't it amazing that a little truth makes these assholes run and hide. They just can't handle anything that doesn't conform to their distorted template of the world. That's why they are shocked when the world comes crashing in, and they find themselves unprepared for it. When a person closes themselves off from different points of view, on purpose, it exposes them for what they truly are. Brainwashed fools.
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By fu bush3July 20, 2008 - 8:31pmIt's true
They have no argument because there is no argument for the truth. Their lives must be very frustrating and filled with anger. That's their answer: Hear no evil, See no evil, just speak it....
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 9:11amThis type of thinking
is why Bin Laden isn't in prison or even better, dead. The Sudanese government offered his head to Bill Clinton but he turned it down. This gave Bin Laden the opportunity to attack us. It may have been inevitable but maybe not. Clinton should have attacked Al-Qaida and the Taliban when the USS Cole was attacked. A couple of token missiles into a baby formula factory didn't cut it. It's democrats and liberals ignoring the problem that has put us where we are, not Bush. He's the one that's fixing it.
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 9:20amLook at these two little republican faggots
Get a room, guys. But you'd better do it in Hatey's home town. It's legal there.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 21, 2008 - 8:51pmlittle truth makes these assholes run and hide
Really, hatemoron? Is that why you post opinions as fact and we continue kicking your worthless piece-of-shit ass all over this blog?
The best part of you ran down your mother's leg ...
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 10:03amReally??
Once again, you haven't refuted anything we've said. All you've done is call us names and tell us to enlist. You libs aren't very bright, are you? This blog is becoming a joke. Intelligent people post valid opinions and ask valid questions and the response is name calling and enlist. This tells me you have no answer or argument and this is very frustrating so you resort to name calling. What are you, third graders?
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 11:22pmBy moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 11:22pm
So hatey
You have at least 3 sock puppets. All the same.
What do you hope to accomplish? We all know it's you. We point it out so the casual reader knows what's going on.
Absolutely pathetic.
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By f u bush2July 22, 2008 - 12:49amLOL - you haven't refuted anything we've said
Well, yo-yo, one cannot refute an, now pay attention ... O-P-I-N-I-O-N. Give me something in the way of FACTS, instead of some reich-winger's OPINION, then I'll have something to refute! Give me something in the way of INTELLIGENCE, and I'll work with you, however, you continue to post BULLSHIT propoganda, therefore, you will get BITCH-SLAPPED again, and again, and again.
I'm not frustrated at all! Actually, I find you repuglicant's HIGHLY amusing! Sounds to me like you're projecting ... and that's a PERSONAL problem for you, yo-yo.
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 22, 2008 - 9:43amFrom The Times
Tom Coghlan in Kabul
Afghanistan is replacing Iraq as the destination of choice for international jihadists, Western intelligence agencies claim. Analysts have monitored a surge in online recruitment of “lions of Islam” to join the war in Afghanistan through jihadist websites, particularly in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Chechnya and Turkey, in the past year.
That is now being matched by evidence of an increase in foreign fighters entering Afghanistan, mostly from training bases established in the lawless Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) of Pakistan, where Osama bin Laden is believed to be hiding.
One Kabul-based Western diplomat, who did not want to be named, said: “There is a change with an increase in attacks in the east [along the Pakistan border] and more chatter of foreign voices is being detected.”
Intelligence officials say that the number of al-Qaeda-linked foreign fighters involved remains small within the overall context of the Taleban insurgency in Afghanistan and Pakistan. However, on a trip to Kabul last week Admiral Michael Mullen, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters: “There are clearly more foreign fighters in the Fata than have been there in the past. What that really speaks to is that's a safe haven and it's got to be eliminated for all insurgents, not just al-Qaeda.”
Times Archive, 1880: Latest intelligence, Afghanistan
General Roberts's army arrived ten miles from Candahar this morning after a splendid march of 335 miles in 20 days
* Afghanistan and its future
* Khelat-I-Ghilzai to Candahar
Related Links
* Afghan explosives terror for troops
* Over and out: former para on why he quit
* Al-Qaeda finds three safe havens for training
Brian Glyn Williams, who researches jihadist websites for the Combating Terrorism Centre at the US military academy at West Point, told The Times that jihadist websites across the Middle East had shown a huge increase in the number of epitaphs for foreign fighters killed in Afghanistan in recent months. They have also reflected the despair of many al-Qaeda followers at the reverses the group has suffered in Iraq since the Sunni Awakening, an alliance of US forces with previously anti-government Sunni militias that turned against al-Qaeda, particularly in the province of Anbar.
Dr Williams said: “The Anbar Awakening really broke the hearts of a lot of al-Qaeda followers who saw the jihad in Iraq in black-and-white terms. Sunni Arab al-Qaeda were pushed out by fellow Sunni Arabs.
“Iraq is seen as a defeat. The image of Afghanistan is seen as a more pristine jihad.”
The Times has learnt from several insurgency sources that Abu Yusuf Saleh al-Yemeni, an emissary for al-Qaeda, met the leadership of Hizb-e-Islami, the Afghan insurgent group, in Nuristan province on the eastern border in autumn 2007. The two sides agreed to work together. Al-Yemeni now leads a band of al-Qaeda fighters alongside Hizb-e-Islami fighters, as well as Taleban and Pakistani militants from bases in Nuristan.
Hekmatullah Sial, a political analyst based in eastern Afghanistan, told The Times: “The local people in the eastern part of Nuristan say that more than 400 fighters, both local and foreign, are moving freely in the area. There are reports that Chechens, Arabs and Pakistanis are among them.
“It is reported that Lashkar-e-Toiba plays the leading role there,” he added, in reference to a Pakistani militant group originally backed by the country's military for operations in Kashmir. More recently Lashkar fighters have been linked to al-Qaeda.
The greater potency of the insurgent groups operating in the area was demonstrated in the attack that nearly overran a remote US combat outpost at Wanat in Nuristan on July 13. US officers described the tactics of the insurgents involved as “first-rate”.
Some of the Arabs arriving in Afghanistan are, in the words of one Western diplomat, “Saudi kids on their gap years”. Others, such as Uzbek members of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, which has been fighting for more than a decade alongside al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, are hardened fighters.
Zabiullah Mujahed, a spokesman for the Taleban, told The Times: “Yes, there are foreign fighters, the 'Narewal Mujahidin' [global jihadis]. So far it is about 5 per cent of the total.”
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By fu bush3July 20, 2008 - 8:34pmBy spammer hatey July 20, 2008 - 8:34pm
No link and weak citation.
More spam.
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:45pmHey FU MCCain
Is "in Kabul" the guy's last name? You thought "in Islamabad" was a last name!!!!
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 20, 2008 - 9:16pmBarack Obama's Butterfly Effect
July 20, 2008 4:45 PM
Today on CBS's Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that "the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.
"And it's important for me to have a relationship with them early, that I start listening to them now, getting a sense of what their interests and concerns are."
The notion that Obama will be dealing with world leaders for eighjt-to-ten years, possibly up through July 2018, suggests that either (a) he believes that not only will he be elected and re-elected, but the 22nd amendment will be repealed and he will be elected for a third term, OR (b) he was speaking casually and just meant two terms.
(I'm guessing b.)
There is a term in chaos theory describing the how infinitesmal variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system.
Most of us are more familiar with the more common name for it: the butterfly effect.
The butterfly effect was introduced in Ray Bradbury's 1952 short story "A Sound of Thunder," when time travelers change the world beyond measure by accidentally killing a butterfly in prehistoric times.
Similarly, international diplomacy can be impacted by careless or glibly-chosen words. (Cue President Bush's "crusade" remarks.)
Some Democratic allies of Obama's are -- off the record -- concerned that the senator too often doesn't consider the potential butterfly effect of his diction.
Take his support for an "undivided Jerusalem," or his remarks about women seeking abortions when they're "feeling blue," which upset feminist leaders.
Or the media kerfuffle after his "refine my policies" presser.
On his press plane on July 5, after that incident, Obama said, "I’m surprised at how finely calibrated every single word was measured."
A reporter noted that that is precisely what happens with the president, he can change world affairs with one word, finely calibrating your words is what happens.
"Well, of course, no, I understand," Obama said. "But for me to say that I’m going to refine my policies, you know, I don’t think in anyway is inconsistent with prior statements and doesn’t change my strategic view that this war has to end and that I am going to end it as president."
This week Obama will have his words picked apart like never before, and it will be an international audience of not just opponents but actual enemies.
They will be watching and waiting to see if he kills any butterflies.
- jpt
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By fu bush3July 20, 2008 - 8:38pmBy hatey July 20, 2008 - 8:38pm
No link.
More spam.
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:43pmPlagiarized
Plagiarized from
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/barack-obamas-b.html
But, this opinion was quickly picked up and multiply plagiarized by right-wing blogs. He probably has no idea that JPT is Jake Tapper, since these idiots plagiarize each other right and left and don't bother to give credit or sources properly.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 20, 2008 - 9:15pmMore good news
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:42pmRound-up of Daily Violence in Iraq, Sunday 20 July 2008
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 8:54pmA fucking tragedy
This is a very detailed article and worth a full read. I posted some excerpts but it was hard to hold back and not post more.
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By f u bush2July 20, 2008 - 9:48pmIt makes you want to
It makes you want to cry.
These are our brothers, our sisters, our children, our neighbors.
We need to make sure they are never again sent to fight for corporate profits, and that any war we fight in is in truth a justifiable war, not a war to secure assets for corporations.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 20, 2008 - 9:54pmThat's right, attack capitolism
Forget about 9-11, it's got to be capitolism's fault. You're one of those 911 truth, one world whackos aren't you? Do you really believe this? Which corporations did we go to war for? Haliburton? Blackwater? You really believe that Bush and Cheyney formulated a plan to attack Iraq for corporate profits, and 9-11 was a perfect opportunity to do it, dont you? Admit it. Here's a plan that's in line with your thinking:
1) Pull our troops out and bring them home immediately.
2) Stop supporting Israel.
3) Raise our taxes.
4) Eliminate large corporations.
5) Bow down to Al-Qaida and beg for their forgiveness.
6) Raise our taxes some more.
7) Get rid of our military.
There, that'll make everything better.
Oh yeah,
8) Re-elect Jimmy Carter.
I feel safer already....
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 9:43amCapitolism????
It is spelled CAPITALISM you uneducated rediculous right wing retard! You are one stupid mother fucker, all you right wing nuts are as dumb as a box of rocks. Shameful.
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By hufflarry2000July 21, 2008 - 6:33pmBy hufflarry2000July 21, 2008 - 6:33pm
In the last week, at least three of hatey's sock puppets have had posts with that word misspelled.
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By f u bush2July 21, 2008 - 7:45pmWhat's funnier
...is that it was always the same words!
I'm surprised he hasn't been kickbanned already. Or, better yet, IP-banned.
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By nonexistent manJuly 21, 2008 - 10:36pmGreat argument
You're right, I made a spelling error. That's all that was wrong in my post. Thanks for pointing it out.
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By moneyosJuly 22, 2008 - 12:35amL - You're whole POST is laughable!! There, feel better?
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 22, 2008 - 9:46amDuhhhh...
O.K. dumbass, why the fuck you think we are fighting there in the first place? To free a Muslim woman's right to wear a mini- skirt?
Or to secure a resource ( oil) that is vital to the primary economic competitors to the U.S.- i.e. the E.U. , Russia and China.
All the while the common citizens of these nations are used as pawns.
Seems like the capitalists of all these powers are to blame.
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By thaelmann37July 22, 2008 - 2:29amAlso,
I guess 9-11 wasn't adequate justification for war. Probably because the WTC was the heart of capitolism. I wonder how you would feel if those planes crashed into abortion clinics or gay weddings or welfare offices. Would war be justified then??
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 9:52amguess 9-11 wasn't adequate justification for war
Sure, with Afghanistan it was THE justification. Iraq? Monkey Boy has lied, I mean given, many "justifications" for his adventure, when one excuse was proven wrong, he just moved on to the next on his list ... he's got may excuses, just take your pick.
By the by, where IS Osama bin Laden? You know, that guy Monkey Boy doesn't "think" about anymore.
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 9:57amAsk Bill
Clinton, he should know where Bin Laden is. Oh wait. He let him go. Never mind.
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 10:00amGee, Bill Clinton's president again?
Well, from what I understand, Monkey Boy has been president since 2000, he was president on 9/11, and, he was president when he let bin Laden escape from Tora Bora ... you know, the same guy Monkey Boy said he'd get, "dead or alive."
Don't hurt yourself reaching, yo-yo.
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 10:07amIt was bound to happen, Pookers!
As the Great Conservative Revolution approaches its slow and painful demise, the 'tards will inevitably drag out Clinton. I'm just surprised that closet queer didn't harp on his big liberal PENIS.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
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By LiberalIconoclastJuly 21, 2008 - 8:53pmThat NON-fact is a fiction
That NON-fact is a fiction perpetrated by a movie made by Disney for ABC.
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight Eisenhower
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By MichtouJuly 21, 2008 - 11:13amSo I ask yo-yo why did Monkey Boy let bin Laden
escape from Tora Bora, and he magically "disappears" ... if all else fails bring up Clinton, or his dick. LOL
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 4:03pmThis is why
we need to pull out of the UN. They're the ones that approved the use of force against Iraq.....
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 10:04amThis is why ...
you need to pull your massive, yet empty head out from your ass. Stick to what you know best, yo-yo ... nothing.
“God has a sense of humor. If you don't believe me, tomorrow go to Wal-Mart and just look at people.” Carlos Mencia
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 10:09amStill
no argument, just abuse and name calling. Notice how Rush and Hannity and their like dont have to resort to name calling or abusive language? It's because the truth doesn't require this.....
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By moneyosJuly 21, 2008 - 11:10amHahahahaahahaha!! Excellent
Hahahahaahahaha!! Excellent joke, from a "pin-head"!
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By dtaylo75July 21, 2008 - 12:17pmI am sure you have proof
that the UN approved the use of force against Iraq? No, you dont. You are lying.
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By hufflarry2000July 21, 2008 - 12:31pmI'm not lying
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html
It's UN Resolution 678 and others.
Before you call me a liar, try doing some research. I know it's a knee jerk reaction for you when your confronted with the truth. It's not you, just all liberals.
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By moneyosJuly 22, 2008 - 12:45amBy moneyosJuly 22, 2008 - 12:45am
You are lying. That is all you do.
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By f u bush2July 22, 2008 - 12:49amYou are lying
Iraq had no WMDs and there was no proof from anyone or anywhere that Iraq had WMDs. The UN inspectors said he had no WMDs. Therefore the invasion was illegal. Bush lied about the WMDs. I just proved you to be a liar.
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By hufflarry2000July 22, 2008 - 8:15amno argument, just abuse and name calling
Well, give me something to argue with, instead of throwing out whatever you pull out from your fat ass. Give me some truth, instead of parrotting whatever Limpballs and Hand Job Hannity rams down your throat and I won't need to call you what you really are, one dumb fuck.
Anything else, yo-yo?
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By Pookie2112July 21, 2008 - 2:03pmThe Truth? Here's the truth:
You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
You suffer from such a bad case of Bush Derangement Syndrome, that it makes you believe that you are qualified to run the military, run the Government, and run Business's