Written on the Body: The Reality of War

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A new report from Fallujah – the Guernica of the Iraq War – brings this home most forcefully. Two of the great witnesses of this war – Dahr Jamail and his collaborator, Ali al-Fadhily – present disturbing evidence of how the use of chemical weapons against the people of Fallujah during the brutal decimation the city in 2004 continues to bear horrific fruit today:
Babies born in Fallujah are showing illnesses and deformities on a scale never seen before, doctors and residents say. The new cases, and the number of deaths among children, have risen after "special weaponry" was used in the two massive bombing campaigns in Fallujah in 2004.
After denying it at first, the Pentagon admitted in November 2005 that white phosphorous, a restricted incendiary weapon, was used a year earlier in Fallujah. In addition, depleted uranium (DU) munitions, which contain low-level radioactive waste, were used heavily in Fallujah. The Pentagon admits to having used 1,200 tons of DU in Iraq thus far.
Many doctors believe DU to be the cause of a severe increase in the incidence of cancer in Iraq, as well as among US veterans who served in the 1991 Gulf War and through the current occupation.
"We saw all the colors of the rainbow coming out of the exploding American shells and missiles," Ali Sarhan, a 50-year-old teacher who lived through the two US sieges of 2004 told IPS. "I saw bodies that turned into bones and coal right after they were exposed to bombs that we learned later to be phosphorus. The most worrying is that many of our women have suffered loss of their babies, and some had babies born with deformations."
"I had two children who had brain damage from birth," 28-year-old Hayfa' Shukur told IPS. "My husband has been detained by the Americans since November 2004 and so I had to take the children around by myself to hospitals and private clinics. They died. I spent all our savings and borrowed a considerable amount of money."
Shukur said doctors told her that it was use of the restricted weapons that caused her children's brain damage and subsequent deaths, "but none of them had the courage to give me a written report."
"Many babies were born with major congenital malformations," a pediatric doctor, speaking on condition of anonymity, told IPS. "These infants include many with heart defects, cleft lip or palate, Down's syndrome, and limb defects."
…The Fallujah General Hospital administration was unwilling to give any statistics on deformed babies, but one doctor volunteered to speak on condition of anonymity -- for fear of reprisals if seen to be critical of the administration.
"Maternal exposure to toxins and radioactive material can lead to miscarriage and frequent abortions, still birth, and congenital malformation," the doctor told IPS. There have been many such cases, and the government "did not move to contain the damage, or present any assistance to the hospital whatsoever. These cases need intensive international efforts that provide the highest and most recent technologies that we will not have here in a hundred years," he added.
This is the fate of the actual human beings in Fallujah. Behind all the debates and commentary, the think-tank wonkery, the campaign rhetoric, the academic studies and the witlessrantings of TV talking heads, this is the war: a young woman wandering through a ruined city, carrying her broken, dying children to hospitals left without medicine or gear. The fate of Hayfa' Shukur is a direct continuation of the 2004 assault on the city, when, as I noted in a Moscow Times column at the time:
One of the first moves in this magnificent feat of arms was the destruction and capture of medical centers. Twenty doctors – and their patients, including women and children – were killed in an airstrike on one major clinic, the UN Information Service reports, while the city's main hospital was seized in the early hours of the ground assault. Why? Because these places of healing could be used as "propaganda centers," the Pentagon's "information warfare" specialists told the NY Times. Unlike the first attack on Fallujah last spring, there was to be no unseemly footage of gutted children bleeding to death on hospital beds. This time – except for NBC's brief, heavily-edited, quickly-buried clip of the usual lone "bad apple" shooting a wounded Iraqi prisoner – the visuals were rigorously scrubbed.
So while Americans saw stories of rugged "Marlboro Men" winning the day against Satan, they were spared shots of engineers cutting off water and electricity to the city – a flagrant war crime under the Geneva Conventions, as CounterPunch notes, but standard practice throughout the occupation. Nor did pictures of attack helicopters gunning down civilians trying to escape across the Euphrates River – including a family of five – make the TV news, despite the eyewitness account of an AP journalist. Nor were tender American sensibilities subjected to the sight of phosphorous shells bathing enemy fighters – and nearby civilians – with unquenchable chemical fire, literally melting their skin, as the Washington Post reports. Nor did they see the fetus being blown out of the body of Artica Salim when her home was bombed during the "softening-up attacks" that raged relentlessly – and unnoticed – in the closing days of George W. Bush's presidential campaign, the Scotland Sunday Herald reports.
I began that 2004 piece with a quote from Italo Calvino, which to me is one of the very best encapsulations of the horror, and hope, of our human condition:
"The inferno…is what is already here, the inferno where we live every day, that we form by being together. There are two ways to escape suffering it. The first is easy for many: accept the inferno and become such a part of it that you can no longer see it. The second is risky and demands constant vigilance and apprehension: seek and learn to recognize who and what, in the midst of the inferno, are not inferno, then make them endure, give them space."
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For lack of a better space
For lack of a better space to post this, has anyone been watching the horrible flooding in the mid-west in general and Iowa in particular? I have been watching towns and homes flooded for several days and something seems to be missing. Looting, people gathering at sports stadiums or standing on their roofs, and most importantly FEMA. Why is that do you suppose? Seems during post Katrina flooding, all the television cameras could find were thousands of people stranded or walking like sheep following the herd along with looting everywhere while others just whined about where FEMA and the Federal Government was. I haven't seen a single interview with a "refugee" asking where the government was or when they would be there to save them. I haven't seen hundreds of people standing on rooftops, looting stores of beer and wine or tennis shoes. Why is this? Does no one live in these mid west cities. No, what you have are people that believe in individual responsibility. People that aren't welfare brood mares depending on the achievers to take care of them. People that heed the warnings and move to higher ground. People that don't have the "victim mentality" bred into them.
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 11:55amUmm, there just a small
Umm, there just a small difference in these two tragedies... They are of several orders of magnitude different in severity!
At present, only two confirmed deaths from this incident.
Katrina caused over 1,800 deaths.
If that doesn't clue you in to the difference between these two incidents, dunno' what will.
Fucking racist!
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By dtaylo75June 13, 2008 - 12:01pmHEY FUCKING FAGGOT RACIST,
HEY FUCKING FAGGOT RACIST, ever wonder why there haven't been the magnitude of deaths? These people had the common sense to run when theproblems started. They didn't wait around like the useless sheep in New Orleans did. They didn't have Ray "Chocolate City..er...school bus" Nagin as mayor in their cities. The magnitude of the flooding is very similar.
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 12:20pmThe flooding is
in no way similar. The midwest is open ground, sparsely populated and easy to get out of. New Orleans is a huge city, concentrated population in a small area that is below sea level with only a few ways out. There is no comparison between the two, you uneducated stinkin cracker. What the hell did you do with that govt handout? You sure did not use it for an education.
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By hufflarry2000June 13, 2008 - 12:31pmLeave it to bebe to think that Iowa is exactly the same as
New Orleans. Yeah, I can see how a major American city would look and function exactly as sparsely-populated farmland. I'm sure it's just as easy to evacuate 500,000 people from a crowded urban environment as it is to evacuate 500 people from wide open prarie.
I'd comment on bebe's stupidity, but it gets dull pointing out something so obvious.
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By UffdaguyJune 13, 2008 - 1:08pm500 people in Cedar Rapids,
500 people in Cedar Rapids, Iowa? Huh....interesting.
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 1:22pmSorry I didn't have the exact census figures at my
fingertips, moron. Wanna argue that Cedar Rapids is just as large and densely populated as New Orleans? That's the point I was trying to make, something that your extremely limited intelligence simply couldn't grasp. Wanna bet that if Katrina hit a predominantly white city, say Seattle, you'd have just as many or even more deaths than New Orleans?
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By UffdaguyJune 13, 2008 - 1:25pmHere's what hit me as key
About 25,000 residents have had to leave, and hundreds of homes and businesses have been damaged, many of them severely.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/14/ST20080614...
While the population is 1/4 what NO had, the numbers that have had to leave their homes is on the order of 1/20th what is was in NO.
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By gt6June 14, 2008 - 5:14pmI agree that....
....the magnitude of the disaster is vastly different than that of Katrina but being an Iowa native I'm really proud of the way my fellow Iowans have responded...
Very proud of the fact that the Iowa Caucus paved the way for Obama and gave his candidacy legitimacy (ie he won a 95% white state and it kind of blew the whole "a black guy can't possibly win a national contest" outa the water)
It's a Hawkeye nation....
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By SgtDJune 16, 2008 - 2:02amEstimated population
of Cedar Rapids as of 2006: 124,417
Population of New Orleans (2000 Census): 484, 674
Population of New Orleans (2007): 239,124
In 2004, 10.1 million tourists visited New Orleans. About the same as Cedar Rapids, right?
In 2004, New Orleans had over 85,000 people working in the tourist industry; in other words, almost as many as the entire population of Cedar Rapids.
So, still think that New Orleans and Cedar Rapids are so much alike?
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By UffdaguyJune 13, 2008 - 1:33pmIt's called population
It's called population density.
For New Orleans it is 973/square km and for Cedar Rapids it is 738.4/square km. So there's more people packed into N.O. for starters. Then the fact that N.O. is basically a basin that retains water, unlike the flat plains of Iowa. And of course the fact that there are limited ways in and out of N.O. unlike Iowa cities.
But other than that, you are totally right, the two tragedies are identical. Idiot.
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By dtaylo75June 13, 2008 - 1:34pmAnother thing these people
Another thing these people are choosing to ignore because it hurts their case. The people of New Orleans had a very, very generous warning period. They had days to see the storm coming their way. How much warning time did the folks in Ceder Rapids have? Did they have days to see a hurricane coming their way, did their weathermen tell them that they should evacuate? Nope, they got a "scattered severe thunderstorms" warning. The are very few reasons that the death toll was so high in New Orleans, but the biggest is that people stayed. They stayed because they weren't self reliant enough to be able to leave, or to protect their property, or to steal other people's property. These are facts that cannot be denied. This has nothing to do with race (for all you democrat race baiters out there), it has to do with class, and not just economic class, but personal class as well.
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By bannedfroggJune 13, 2008 - 2:41pmdicklessfroggy - eat shit and die.
I know EXACTLY where you're trying to go with your punk-ass post ... "democrat race baiters", my ass.
I know one fact that can't be denied - you're a fucking racist asshole.
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By Pookie2112June 13, 2008 - 3:01pmClass
How about how the boy scouts reacted after their camp got hit by that tornado. Did we hear all about looting and how nobody responded to those scouts that needed help. The only thing I heard about was how the ones that were not injured picked up first aid kits and went to aid their fellow scouts that were not so lucky. They took care of each other because they knew that if they waited for some else to do it, there would have been more than 4 that parished. The ages of the boy scouts, 13-18 years old. I pray that when a tornado or a hurricane hits that I am surrounded by a bunch of scouts and not a bunch of people that rely on the government to do everything for them.
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By pollackJune 13, 2008 - 3:02pmClass - Yes, you've clearly shown you have none.
Go back to clownhall.com or back under the pond scum you crawled out from under.
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By Pookie2112June 13, 2008 - 3:04pmBy pollackJune 13, 2008 - 4:02pm
You are a fucking ass.
The hurricane didn't kill the people of NO. The flooding did. People all along the coast have stayed put when hurricanes come. People form FL to TX. The flooding wasn't expected.
I hope your mother becomes deathly ill today. And I hope all she has to help her is your worthless ass.
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By f u bush2June 13, 2008 - 3:06pmgod knows I wouldn't want
god knows I wouldn't want her to rely on the government if that happened.
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By pollackJune 13, 2008 - 3:11pmBy pollackJune 13, 2008 - 4:11pm
I bought a bottle of wine to celebrate. The next time one of your loved ones dies can you post about it here?
I want to pop it open.
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By f u bush2June 13, 2008 - 3:14pmYou assholes...you and
You assholes...you and especially pukie.......are so full of shit, your eyes have to be brown.
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By bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 9:59amYou're projecting again
What's wrong, Baby Homey? Are the Brown People invading your high-class neighborhood and driving your property values down? Are you starting to see more NBA team stickers on the backs of cars than you are NASCAR logos?
Cry me a river, racist piglet.
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By nonexistent manJune 16, 2008 - 10:08amActually no....and no.
Actually no....and no.
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By bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 12:48pmPappy - You must have "abused senior citizen" syndrome.
All I do is spend my time bitch-slapping your wrinkled ass all over this blog and your sorry ass keeps coming back for more. And when will you stop ASS-uming?
Hazel, grandpa, hazel.
"Pukie" ... how original ... YAWN.
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By Pookie2112June 16, 2008 - 10:58amSince prostitution's illegal, your mother certainly can't
rely on social security.
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By Pookie2112June 13, 2008 - 3:15pmBy pollackJune 13, 2008 - 4:11pm
What's the matter pollack? No response to me getting ready to celebrate the next time one of your loved ones dies?
Not so funny when someone makes light of the death of your loved ones is it?
Just remember ass wipe. Next time you are at a funeral I'll be here laughing my ass off. I'm sure the death of your loved one could have been avoided if your family wasn't too fucking stupid to avoid it. That's right. When your mother or child dies I'll be laughing at how you were to stupid to stop it.
You like that?
You think you are so fucking smart and that you can shrug off the deaths of others. And you can shrug off my words now just as easily. But when the time comes for you to grieve, your heartlessness and these words will come back to you. You will sit there looking in the coffin of your loved one and all you will think about is how you made fun of others pain and suffering, and you will think about how someone is laughing at your fucking pain.
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By f u bush2June 13, 2008 - 3:41pmSorry
Sorry I didn't reply as fast as you would like. Actually it is a little funny with you making light of it. I read what you are typing and it makes me LOL. The only reason I come here once in a while is when I need a good laugh. This is the one place I can count on people being so full of hate that it is to the point that it is hilarious. Read what you wrote about me and my family. It is funny because I picture some little punk who is try to "rage against the machine" and telling me I am hatefull when it is you wishing people to die and and using swear words every chance you get. You are a big man. You think I will be thinking of you later. I will have forgoten you by the time I am done writing this. As long as everyone in here keeps "raging", I will keep laughing. As for the poor people that were hurt or killed by katrina. I do feel for them. If you are going to blame someone though. Blame the democratic state that put them in that situation. It took years to make that city the hell whole that it was. It had nothing to do with black or white. It had to do with people trained to rely on a government. Like I said before, if my mother was sick, I would rather her rely on me or my father, or my brothers, or my sisters, or my uncles, or my aunts, or my cousins, or my nephews, or my neices, or my friends before I trust the government.
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By pollackJune 13, 2008 - 4:14pmBy pollackJune 13, 2008 - 5:14pm
Forget about it for now. You'll remember later.
I am not usually a hateful person. But you right wingers that come on here and trivialize the deaths of Katrina victims and the Iraqi's make me sick.
As I said. When the time comes for you to grieve, when you see that casket, the memory will come back. It won't matter who you put your trust in. It won't matter if I'm right or wrong. But I'll be laughing. Until then forget about it.
Please do come back and let us know when it happens so we can toast the event.
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By f u bush2June 13, 2008 - 4:24pmPut a bunch of conservative retards who don't believe in
good government and what do you get? A bad government.
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By thaelmann37June 14, 2008 - 8:55amrely on governmetn
You are right. Your Republican Government is incapable of handling this or any other crisis. The biggest difference between NO and Iowa is that aid that is requested by the state is given. In N.O. the aid was turned back. I have a personal friend who is an EMT in Ala. and he and several of his collegues loaded up several large SUVs and EMT vehicles with medical supplies and motored off to N.O.LA. to lend a hand. They were turned back, and not allowed to go, by Federal Authorities. How many people could they have saved? Who knows. What I do know if that the governor wouldn't give GW Bush authority over the National Guard or the situation on the ground, as she rightfully shouldn't. So your boys in the White House simple said fuck em. Let them eat cake. Hell they were only some niggers, who gives a shit? Right?
You are a racist and you are ignorant, and I only hope that one day your need assistance from GWs boys and they will not be there. Say when your son or daughter comes back from one of your wars with out any legs and gets to sit in his own shit and piss for lack of help.
Have a nice life.
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By pbillpJune 14, 2008 - 3:24pmCry me a fucking river of
Cry me a fucking river of tears. Do you expect anyone to believe your horse shit story?
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By bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 12:54pmThat story is not unique
many are well documented. FEMA as it has been mismanaged and privatized under W F'ed up by the numbers in NO. Hundreds of offers of aid from other countries were turned down or ignored and people died as a result.
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By gt6June 16, 2008 - 2:55pmAre you even aware of what
Are you even aware of what the Katrina victims had to deal with in N.O. after the storm? They were under feet of water, no power, no potable water, with shit and bodies floating through the streets. Exactly what were they supposed to "do for themselves"? Get into their cars and drive out of there?
Why don't you look up the median income of the residents of the 9th Ward, and compare that to the median income in Des Moines. Then come back and tell me what options they had.
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By dtaylo75June 13, 2008 - 3:15pmBy dtaylo75June 13, 2008 - 4:15pm
No need - I can tell you exactly how that tool will answer, and he won't bother looking up the stats ... that requires THINKING and WORK. But, I'm going to take a stab at it and let me know how I do:
"It's all their fault they were too poor - and too black - to get off their lazy asses and move. Besides, they were a bunch of welfare mothers with 10 kids and guys who do nothing but rob people and do drugs all day so, who cares?"
I think I summed it up pretty good, what do you think?
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By Pookie2112June 13, 2008 - 3:19pmThe comparison is the losers
The comparison is the losers in the 9th ward should have left when told to leave. And besides that, their income for the most part is due to the fact they didn't pay attention to their education and learn marketable job skills that would have allowed them to escape that predicament before it happened. Instead they decided, like a lot of government educated Americans, to do drugs, have babies out of wedlock, not work, buy those rims they needed rather than invest or save, etc.. Most people in life are where they are due to the choices and decisions they make. he 9th ward is a prime example of that.
In comparison, those Americans in the mid west apparently come from a more achievement oriented culture where failure and bad decisions aren't rewarded. They saw trouble heading their way and decided to take care of themselves and others rather than waiting on government to take care of them.
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By bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 1:01pmPappy says ...
"The comparison is the losers in the 9th ward should have left ..."
I hear ... "Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah! Blah, blah ..."
Pappy, take your tired and racist ass over the clownhall.com. They're just as "bright" over there as you are.
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By Pookie2112June 16, 2008 - 3:35pmAgain, you choose to ignore the facts
First, topography. Much of New Orleans sits in a basin below sea level. Second, much of the city was "protected" by levees that were known to be inadequate. Third, many of the people who died were those that were too poor to own a motor vehicle, or afford to rent one. The evacuation plan was inadequate for those people, and not enough vehicular resources were available to help those people.
I'm sure you think the 100,000+ people who died in Myanmar were just lazy brown people too. They had adequate warning to flee, but they died in unbelievable numbers anyway. The hell with them, right?
Why is it that repubs are constantly harping on how they are "compassionate conservatives", but when people are actually in danger or are killed in large numbers, it's always the victims fault?
A psychologist may classify them as sociopaths.
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By UffdaguyJune 13, 2008 - 3:32pmYou're right, Frog
The people of New Orleans shoulda just jumped in their Hummers, loaded up their wide-screens and their Rolexes, and driven out of NO and stayed at the 5-star hotel in Baton Rouge.
You moron. Take away your means and see how quickly YOU get out of the way of either a flood or a hurricane.
And living in the flood zone in the Midwest, I can tell you that many of the flood's victims here had plenty of warning too. The local network stations have been giving near 24/7 coverage, either live from their weather rooms, or at the bottom of your TV screen while you watch Judge Judy (I know, all you Repugs only watch Farce News, which talks about NO vs. the Midwest the same way you do--did you get your talking points from Whine-at-me or Limpdick?).
And oh, yes, your analysis totally ignores the Category 5/3 hurricane that forced all the emergency providers to seek cover along with those who could not leave in New Orleans. Contrast that with the largely intact emergency services in Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinios, and Minnesota as these floods evolve.
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By blogbobJune 14, 2008 - 6:03pmNo, the refugees or looters
No, the refugees or looters in N.O. just waited until the high achievers left and then took their big screens, jewelry, alcohol, etc..
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By bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 1:04pmBLAH!! BLAH!! BLAH!! BLAH, BLAH!!
Yawn.
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By Pookie2112June 16, 2008 - 3:36pmWait a second. You are
Wait a second. You are comparing the open prairie with N.O. that has limited ways in/out of the city?
Want to know what the REAL difference is? Lets play a game, it's called...
"Pick Which Picture is from Katrina, and Which is From Iowa 2008"
Know which one is from Katrina? (hint, it's the one with the black person in it). And now you know what the difference REALLY is.
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By dtaylo75June 13, 2008 - 1:09pmWhy are you going racist,
Why are you going racist, son?
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 1:24pmchocolate city
Chocolate , is the blending of sugar, white milk , and the dark cocoa beans, Sounds like a part of Americas melting pot . Or the blending of people in one city to me.
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By getmad54June 13, 2008 - 1:35pmCHOCOLATE BAR
If you belive that is what he ment, I have a big fat chocolate bar for you to suck on!
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By pollackJune 13, 2008 - 1:49pmyour boyfriends say they need a magnifying glass to find it.
Little girl,
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By getmad54June 13, 2008 - 2:06pmMagnifying glass?
Your comment made absolutly no sense. Are you saying I am gay? They need a magnifying glass to find my chocolate bar? If anyone is trying to find a chocolate bar they can just go to the store. I was just offering you some of mine. Just so you know, swearing is just a sign of ignorance.
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By pollackJune 13, 2008 - 2:18pmDo you have a point "pollack", or are you being paid
to come here and show what an asshole you are?
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By Pookie2112June 13, 2008 - 3:03pmThat is the most pathetic
That is the most pathetic backpeddling ever used in any situation ever. Everybody knows God damned well what Nagin meant, and it had nothing to do with white milk. If you truly bought that bullshit explanation, you are a brain dead idiot.
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By bannedfroggJune 13, 2008 - 2:51pmwhite milk and brown powder
Since i am not , a racist The only thing that came to my mind , was chocolate milk, and that takes white milk and the brown powder , the blending of two colors. So if there is any dead, brain cells, that must be coming from you. I did not know that you were from new Orleans, since you know nagin so well, the city that the majority of Caucasians voted for him, for a second term, as mayor.
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By getmad54June 13, 2008 - 3:21pm"It's time for us to come
"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans -- the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority-African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."
Did you forget the rest of the quote dumbass?? "majority african American"?? We all know what Nagin meant, even he did, that's why he apologized so quickly. Quit making excuses for this jackass.
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By bannedfroggJune 14, 2008 - 2:42pmAnd the truly SAD part of
And the truly SAD part of that entire comment is that there probably aren't 10 Africans in the entire city. The majority are black Americans.
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By bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 10:02amBy bebeholmesJune 16, 2008 - 11:02am
Say hi to your wife Polly for us.
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By f u bush2June 16, 2008 - 11:09amI'm going to go really out
I'm going to go really out on a limb here and say that I just might know a little bit more about black culture in America that froggy.
When a black man or woman uses the term "chocolate" or "mocha" to refer to a person, they are referring to somebody of mixed race (and thus having a lighter skin color).
What Nagin was referring to was returning N.O. to the cultural melting pot that it originally was. Obviously you've never been to N.O., but it is an amazing mix of cultures. American, French, Cajun, African American, African, Carribean, etc.
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By dtaylo75June 13, 2008 - 3:24pmLMAO!!! Is that why he said
LMAO!!! Is that why he said this in the very same quote???
"This city will be a majority-African American city. It's the way God wants it to be."
I'm sure he meant milk chocolate by that to!!! Is that why he apologized so quickly, because he meant milk chocolate?? Why do you people keep making excuses for these remarks when even Nagin himself knew he was out of line???
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By bannedfroggJune 14, 2008 - 2:40pmbannedfroggee
bannedfrogg, you have just won the biggest asshole of the year prize.Nagin was so quick to apologized , for the remarks he made,about God being angry at America's occupation of Iraq, that he has sent tornadoes,after tornadoes at America. As far as chocolate city, I just read a piece that says just what i was thinking , its the mixture of milk and a brown powder.But of course the MSM did like that explanation.Chocolate city can also mean where the population is mostly black, N.O was 70% black, but most of them were without homes. So to make that city chocolate , there has to be a way to bring them back,Maybe i missed something , but i did not see the phrase "it's the way God wants it to be".
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By getmad54June 15, 2008 - 7:56pmFrogglodyte Won That Same Award Last Year...
... AND the two years prior to that also! BeBeholmes was the winner of the dimmest dimwit prize since they couldn't give out two asshole awards. They made a 'special' category for BBbrain.
"bannedfrogg, you have just won the biggest asshole of the year prize".
By getmad54 June 15, 2008 - 8:56pm
I guess the 'prize' he won is his continuing to be an asshole his entire life.... just like every day of his life previous to today.
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By othelloJune 15, 2008 - 9:02pmNo, he apologized for saying
No, he apologized for saying that God wants New Orleans to be mostly black. Make excuses for his "chocolate" remark all you want, but we all know what he meant. He said that New Orleans is for black people, and maybe just a few whites (but not too many), he made it crystal clear. It never stops amazing me how you guys are willing to make excuses for blatant racism just because it's source is a democrat.
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By bannedfroggJune 15, 2008 - 10:14pmNo, he apologized for saying
No, he apologized for saying that God wants New Orleans to be mostly black. Make excuses for his "chocolate" remark all you want, but we all know what he meant. He said that New Orleans is for black people, and maybe just a few whites (but not too many), he made it crystal clear. It never stops amazing me how you guys are willing to make excuses for blatant racism just because it's source is a democrat.
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By bannedfroggJune 15, 2008 - 10:15pmBy bannedfroggJune 15, 2008 - 11:15pm
At the end of this year our country will have a "chocolate" president. It's the way God wants it.
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By Guy FawkesJune 15, 2008 - 10:45pmBy bannedfroggJune 15, 2008 - 11:15pm
double dumb ass
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By f u bush2June 16, 2008 - 1:41amBy bannedfroggJune 15, 2008 - 11:15pm
It's the truth, not an "excuse". You don't like the truth dumb ass.
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By f u bush2June 16, 2008 - 1:42amConsidering
that it was the black population that was displacewd in Katrina and it seems every opprtuniy to minimize the number of them returning was taken, a statement that the town would once AGAIN be predominantly blackis nothing more than an affirmation to those people that they would not be forgotten.
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By gt6June 16, 2008 - 8:11amFlooding
Lets all just be happy that Louisiana finally put someone in the Governors office that will actually do something usefull. Not to mention, say a prayer for all the people affected by all this current flooding.
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By pollackJune 13, 2008 - 1:30pmBy pollackJune 13, 2008 - 2:30pm
Bwwwaaahahahahaha!
Yeah, maybe Bobby will exorcise all New Orleans' demons. What a tool. I really hope that McSame picks this idiot as his running mate.
Bobby Jindal Thinks He's The Exorcist
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By Guy FawkesJune 13, 2008 - 3:12pmWhat a phony soldier you are
You take something as horrific as the floods and Katrina, and turn it into a racist tirade. Fuck your family and you.
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJune 13, 2008 - 12:04pmPoint out something racist
Point out something racist in my original post, racist. I still pray for your family liberalblue.
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 12:22pmThat's rich coming from a Pharisee like you
Do you deny that you are a racist? You have called nearly everyone on this blog "nigger" at some point. You are obviously a practiced user of the term.
And can the false holiness, peckerwood. No one's buying it. My wife, my cat, and I will do just fine without the prayers of a liar and hypocrite.
Ha-ha-ha-HAA-ha! APW!
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJune 13, 2008 - 12:27pmOf course I deny I'm a
Of course I deny I'm a racist. Nearly everyone on this blog has called me a redneck, hillbilly, and cracker. Are they practicers of those terms? You get what you give, monk.
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 12:40pmThe two are in no way similar
And you know it, liar and Pharisee. But your meltdown is entertaining.
We'll do it live!
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJune 13, 2008 - 12:46pmBy bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 1:40pm
fuck off cracker troll
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By f u bush2June 13, 2008 - 12:47pmBebe, Everyone Knows You're A Racist....
... your implied racist 'point' was duly noted.
Anyone remember the two photographs that appeared in the papers during Katrina; one of some black folks wading through chest deep water with some food that the caption said they "looted", the other with some white folks wading through chest deep water with some groceries the caption said they "found"!
Did you write those captions BeBeanasshole??
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By othelloJune 14, 2008 - 5:25pmWere these people stranded
in a city that was below sea water? Did over 1000 die yet? Do those people have food and water? Did you pay back that govt grant for your education yet, or is personal responsibility for other people?
God is flooding you evil neocons in the midwest and causing drought in the south to punish you for your warmongering and murdering of babies.
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By hufflarry2000June 13, 2008 - 12:07pmNewsflash!
"bebebrain" Offers Oral To His Pastor...
You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.
---Ray Bradbury
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By LiberalIconoclastJune 13, 2008 - 12:10pmDamn liberalblue, you are
Damn liberalblue, you are descending into a sick fuck like the rest of your cohorts here. I would have expected more from an "educated" man.
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By bebeholmesJune 13, 2008 - 12:24pm