McCain prefers troops to never advance to become the middle class

By American Street

After the Great Depression ended on the strength of war production, the momentum continued to grow ours into an economy that was the envy of the world. That was accomplished in three critical ways: VA loans permitted returning veterans to own homes, the GI Bill allowed them to go to college and vocational schools to boost their careers and incomes, and a war hero - Eisenhower - got the Interstate Highway system passed, a massive project that created a ton of jobs and lowered the cost of transporting goods. Our huge middle class was largely created through these efforts.

So now a different kind of Republican, who performed heroically as a prisoner of war 35 years ago, doesn’t want to extend the same offer to overextended, multiple-tour, exhausted war veterans, because they might leave military service to pursue the American dream? He overlooks the fact that programs like these are also part of the reason new recruits join, so what’s the complaint really about? Only officers get to be middle class but the sergeants and grunts don’t?

Have the value systems of heroes changed that much? Or is this just one guy who’s an exception, defending his comrades in his time of war and telling all future veterans they can just go screw themselves?

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Jim Webb makes McCain look like a spoiled little Admiral's son

Oh right. He was.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Gerbil_eating.jpg
fristees used to mean something.
Now its just a gerbil's wheel world.

Frankly

I never saw the value in a "Fristie"; it seemed to waste column inches with post after post fighting over who got first when. But since you mention it, it does seem thast topics stay up a VERY short time, so it's hard to check back and see where the thought process is going anymore.

By blogbobMay 11, 2008 - 12:40am

The "value" in a "Fristie" is in the bragging rights....nothing more, nothing less. Sure, it's silly, but so what? Now if you're a good boy, maybe one of us will tell you how to "track" the thread(s) that you have commented on after they drop off of the main page. ;-)

I'd like to track threads to

I'd like to track threads to which I have made no comments but have an interesting dialog going. I don't want to have to always drop in and make a comment.

By Michtou May 11, 2008 - 11:58am

Me, too, but alas.......

By Michtou May 11, 2008 - 11:58am

Indeed. I seem to recall Sam pledging to have a full, running list of all blog entries for longtime users to access quickly. So much for that.

I'm still waiting for a "save" option to save the changes to comment viewing options.
And clickable, trackable usernames.

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I can see it now:

A picture of a smiling McCain. He makes a comment about his honorable service.
Followed by pictures of homeless veterans looking for assistance for their
honorable service but not finding any.
The voice over is: "Senator McCain voted against a new GI Bill. The same type of GI Bill available to him."
The tag line is: "Vote for McCain. Don't forget - he'll screw over the Vet."

By Candymarl

You're very good at that vision thing.
And McCain is like posing for his "coldest
mind in veteranville" paintjob. Could he be
more disconnected?

Thanks dewbie

Blushes.

How Repugnican

to use our troops as props, to invoke them repeatedly to make a case for passing legislation to take Constitutional freedoms away from the American people, and to win elections, then to follow that up by cutting benefits, to invoke "stop-loss" rules to prevent reservists from retiring, to send them on multiple deployments that fall one day short each of invoking GI bill benefits, to bring them home shattered and to allow them to sit in filth while awaiting their discharges minus a few body parts, then to have the gall to vote to kill the new GI bill to keep them in perpetual servitude.

WHEN are the American military personnel going to wake up and realize that the Repugs support them in word only, NEVER in deed?

McCain didn't need the GI bill.

The McCain GI bill involves having an affair with and eventually marrying a rich bitch so vets can bypass the middle class and have their sugarmomma buy their elections, so maybe one day she can buy the position of first lady.

Why waste your time on a college education if you can marry a rich bitch? Why bother trying to buy a house when your rich bitch will already have 4 different mansions anyways? Who needs to find a job when your rich bitch can buy you a job?

Everyone knows that the reason Americans join the military is because of the enormous salary you can retire off of if you survive. It isn't necessary for potential recruits to think they have any significant benefits when they return home, because they will be payed so well while they are in service. Their families will have to consult a broker just to deal with their enormous incomes.

It's a good thing our troops make 5 times as much as Halliburton hacks, otherwise they may not want to join or stay in the military when they realize they can join Blackwater and make more money, since they have no benefits once they return home.

This McCain brainfart makes as much sense as his take on slave trade agreements. The reason this has not benefitted or has even hurt millions of American is because we can't compete well in the global economy. In other words, Americans aren't willing or can't afford to work for 33 cents an hour with no benefits so a very small group of millionaires can become billionaires.

Maybe McCain can negotiate with the Sunni's in Iran and the Shiites in Saudi Arabia to see if they would contribute to a veterans benefits fund.

Once an Officer, Always an Officer

The key here is McCain was an officer ... a career officer ... a Naval Academy grad. This is not about McCain the Republican or McCain who married a rich beer distributors daughter. McCain was trained to see enlisted personnel as his inferiors. The military is a vestige of feudalism with noble knights (officers) and commoners (enlisted personnel). What used to be called "officers and men" don't eat together, play together or socialize (the latter is called "fraternization" and it can get you court martialed). In the navy, officers and enlisted personnel even wear distinctly different uniforms. In the Air Force, both classes wear small US pins on their lapels but on the pin for enlisted personnel, the pin is surrounded by big zero (which shows airmen how the service regards them).

A military legend when I was in the draft military tells that one evening Ike (career officer, West Point grad) went out to dinner at a fancy DC restaurant and saw an Army enlisted man eating there. He went back and vetoed a pay raised for enlisted personnel assuming that if a "grunt" could eat there, GIs did not need the pay raise.

During Viet Nam, McCain's war, Army infantrymen used to "frag" their officers (accidently toss a fragmentation grenade in their direction during combat). Since most of the population has never been subject to the draft and has no military experience, you probably won't understand why this sort of thing happened. In the movies, officers are always so handsome, heroic, noble and good looking and those funny little enlisted men always played by character actors are so respectful and so happy to serve them. Not unlike how Whites and Blacks are portrayed in "Gone With The Wind" and other old movies.

Thanks for the insight.

This ideology meshes very well with Republican ideology, which is also anti-democratic, authoritarian, arrogant and entitled.

No wonder this guy became a Republican. He doesn't think all men were created equal and believes he should do all he can to keep it that way.

As an enlisted guy I get what you're...

...saying and my main beef with the officer/enlisted relationship is that it's been my experience that the military justice system is softer on officers.

Having said that....the system works and every military in the world, that I know of, has officer/enlisted. The relationship differs from country to country and service to service but it's there. Having worked with foreign militaries...mostly Nato...our enlisted force by and large has more responsibility and decision making ability than most others...

The Military has a rigid command structure for a reason...during contingencies and war decision making can't be a debate society...it has to be top down and the military structure fits the bill.....

Just my 2 cents....

Command structure breakdown IN ADVANCE.

In command structure dynamics, that become croney family "insider-blind" (disconnected), contingencies are no more than weak points in pre-security planning.

There always seems that there is plenty of time, money and the precious lives of lost manpower, to throw at remedy of a badly thought out contingency plan. Badly thought out, because the
decision-making entities could not manage or conceive the debate needed on the subject IN ADVANCE.
The right minds are not being made available, because of early
nurturing breakdowns in the U.S. educational system, which ALSO relys on a militaristic, top-down oriented decision structure.

The often used backup continguency plan of C.Y.A.
(cover your ass), is not sustainable over time. Here again,
the "powers that be" cannot relate....

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By actor212 May 11, 2008 - 9:26am

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GI Bill

The GI bill helped me get a bachelors degree after service during the Vietnam era. As a result I now have a graduate degree and work as a mental health professional. In the 1960's I knew my generation was duped into fighting in an illegal invasion of a country, just as this generation is in Iraq. I did not always think that way, but I researched, analyzed, and paid attention.

McCain, by his training, was, and is, incapable of seeing that he almost died for lies, and still supports Bush adninistration lies, even the most poorly concealed and transparant. If he cannot see these falsehoods, he is not capable of holding any high office.

I would never, ever, support this incompetent man.

Something about being disconnected

Something about loosing track of who the friend and the enemy is.
Over time.
Making erroneous decisions from not having the reality perspective.

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