Sexism and Misogyny

By Booman Tribune

by BooMan

I think the topic of sexism and misogyny is
important and interesting, especially in the context of the
presidential race. But I think there is a lot of sloppy and aimless
discussion going on, too. It pays to lay out some different areas of
focus and to try to analyze the issue in a compartmentalized way. For
example, a central premise of the Clinton camp is that antipathy for
Clinton's candidacy is driven in large part by antipathy for women.
That antipathy can be of the mild sexist variety or the hard
misogynistic variety, but it's a factor. We should make a distinction
between lazy sexism and hard misogyny, and we should also make some
effort to decide whether these factors were in any way decisive factors
in the failure of her campaign.

We should also distinguish between the sexism and misogyny in the
traditional media. And we should ask how that may have influenced the
outcome. And when discussing the blogosphere, we should distinguish
between the front-pages and the diarists, and between the front-pages
and the comment sections. We should also take note of which bloggers
permitted sexist and misogynistic comments and which bloggers made
efforts to discourage or punish them.

And a last topic is whether the blogosphere was sufficiently active in
condemning examples of sexism and misogyny that came up in the
traditional media.

On this last point, I remember approving of the suspension of David
Shuster when he said that the Clintons were 'pimping out' their
daughter. But I don't really remember having much else to say about
sexism in the traditional media. My consumption of cable news is
sporadic at best, and I let Media Matters and Crooks & Liars, and
other video based bloggers do most of the work on watchdogging those
programs. I'm a more print based consumer and critic. But I probably
didn't do enough to speak up about some of sexist things people were
writing in the newspapers. Having said that, I spoke up and condemned
any sexist language I noticed on this blog. I know other bloggers made
no such efforts.

My overall view is that Hillary Clinton succeeded in convincing the
American people that she was the presumptive frontrunner, which means
that people were able to picture a woman president without much
resistance. That frontrunner status was so ingrained that I think it
actually hurt her campaign, as people rejected a coronation. Meanwhile,
the black community displayed a lot of resistance to the idea of a
black president. This was evidenced by the slowness with which they
rallied around Obama. Prior to his victory in the overwhelmingly white
state of Iowa, the polls showed Clinton running even or ahead among
blacks in South Carolina. In other words, Obama had a harder time
getting people to accept the idea of a black president than Clinton had
getting people to accept the idea of a female president.

The Clintons have consistently tried to convince people that a black
man is unelectable (whether they sincerely believe it or not), while
the Obama campaign has never to my knowledge tried to convince people
that a woman is unelectable. The Clinton campaign has used a million
and one excuses for their losses, including that certain states have
too many black people in them. The Obama did not make the converse
argument to explain why they lost any states until West Virginia.

I don't think there is any comparison between the two candidacies in
terms of who was willing to employ identity politics. The traditional
media has been more of a mixed bag. There has been plenty of overtly
sexist language and very little overtly racist language. But, at the
same time, the media saturated the airwaves for over a month with
Reverend Wright outtakes. What was that other than an effort to test
whether a black man can be elected in this country? On balance, a few
sexist comments did much less damage than an effort to vilify the black
church and crucify Obama by proxy.

I haven't seen a single example of a high profile blogger in the
left-wing blogosphere using overtly sexist language, let alone
misogynistic language. But there have been examples of racist language.
So, on the whole, I do not think the case has been proven that Clinton
suffered more for her gender than Obama suffered for his mixed race.
And I see no convincing evidence that sexism played a big part, and
certainly not a decisive part in her losses. In fact, I think her
gender is probably the main thing sustaining the high level of support
she currently has. I don't think Chris Dodd or Joe Biden would still be
getting donations and votes if they were facing the same math as
Clinton has been facing for the last three months.

Those are my thoughts on the matter. What are yours?

Comments

(58)

No No No boo

Don't over-analyze something crude like a presidential
primary campaign strategy. Its all about:

"Theres nothing wrong with women candidates, just maybe NOT THAT BITCH!"

and,

"Afro-American's are the smartest race going, just maybe NOT THAT WHITE-HATER!"

White guys like Dodd and Biden didn't have the close-to-the-wire-all-the-way-to-the-convention
kinda numbers that Clinton had...and still has.

All's fair in...nothing extra to take from it, booboo!

Us media grunts turned it into hollywood, the day we interveiwed Martha Washington about the cherry tree incident.
And the money says it won't change anytime soon.

Yet booman and the neocons have clinton and kennedy on life-support. One is still emulsifying out clinton's negatives and the others are laughing up chapaquidick (SP).

Its all most over. Hang in there.

Wow! Now that

was a contribution! (sarcasm)

You like calling it

Too bad you can't see it.

Hillary was "Billary", longer than she was Hillary
That is sexist in itself, because nobody ever thought of calling the other two MALE candidates "(Wife's name)arack" Obama, or "(Wife's name)ohn McCain.

You know the spiel: "Behind every good man is a good woman".
Well, its still behind. Still behind.

Hillary was Billary

because her Husband was the president and she USED that fact. The reason she was able to move to NY and be the front runner for Senate was her association with Bill. Her mantra in this campaign in her experience. If you aren't talking about BILL's term as Pres and Gov, you're talking about a lousy 4 years.

You don't here the label coming from me, but it is one she brought on herself.

Divide and Conquer

What an historic battle: A white woman of privilage against a black man who few knew. This was fertile ground for the Republicans and they played it to the Hilt(ary), with her help. The Republicans hoped that Hillary and Barack would cancel each other out, i.e., destroy one another for the general election. Hillary went for the red-bait, Barrack did not.

The American electorate is filled with contradictions; most of the time we don't vote in our best interests as citizens --- witness "W" --- while at other times, their are flashes of brilliant understanding. Witness Barack Obama: the reason black folks did not initially coalesce around him is that he was an unknown entity and Hillary was known (So much for the axiom that black folks blindly support black politicians). What brought Sen. Obama to a multitude of black and white folks is that they got to know him, via his books and in Iowa (how many black folks there?), he spent weeks before the primary meeting with voters ---- he became a known quantity.

Hillary's chief mistake is that she used a) the gender card with regards to the media and b) the race card with Barack. At another time in American history, that combo might have worked in her favor. But let's face it, while we can all acknowledge that sexism and racism still saturate our culture --- this year, 2008 --- the dynamics have changed and the personalities have changed. Barack had the genius and integrity not to go for the identity-politics bait; Hillary, like a Pavlov knee-jerk, could not resist. The irony of course is, to my way of thinking, she has set the women's cause back: You don't Advance a cause, by employing Backward strategies.

And because Barack did not go for the bait and self-destruct, the Republican's must now devise a rationale for their existance that the voters can buy. Sure, they'll be those that don't vote for Obama because he is black, but in 2008 --- that will no longer win the day. (Nice try, Hillary).

Bravo!!

BRAVO!!

I love the way people blame republicans for the bad

The republicans are at last count 60 million people and if you want a candidate to represent the country they have to represent the 60 million red shirts. you can not send a hitter to the plate that can not play with the other team. Hillary said on live TV that she would be the candidate. she said it with such conviction that some people decided that she should not have the privilege to be crowned without a vote. after that interview with Katie Couric
Every one started to look elsewhere. And out of the field of Dodd, Biden Kusinich and the Governer of New Mexico Obama looked like the only guy that would play nice with the rest of the teams. He touted a new direction in government and the republicans I being one of them thought Obama might be a good candidate. He did not sound Black it did not act black he was a breath of fresh air in the black leadership . So please do not blame the republicans for the candidates the dems choose. The republicans are looking for someone who can play with our team .
I think most GOPers want government to work no matter who is in the drivers seat.Congress the President the Judiciary nothing seems to be in working order at all these days.

By ral6262May 18, 2008 - 4:34pm

Bush supporters blindly waved a flag when Bush invaded Iraq after several Saudi nationals hijacked planes and killed thousands of US citizens. Because of that invasion several thousand US military have died along with thousands of Iraqis. Now there are Al Qaeda in Iraq where there were none.

The ignorance and willingness to accept Bush policy without ever asking a question or considering the facts has turned most republicans into murderers and terrorists themselves.

Because of people like you there are children with no arms and legs and dead chidren where there didn't need to be.

But people like you cannot see that. You will shrug these words off like you would shrug off any pictures i could show you of dead and wounded children that you are responsible for.

I don't waste my time considering the words of murderers like yourself.

to you Barack did not sound

to you Barack did not sound or act black yet you call Mr. Obama (IT )

Then why does Hillary

have more votes than Obama? You act like Obama has won 90% of the votes. He has not. Hillary has half the primary voters too.

In Case You Haven't Done the Math Lately...

Obama has more popular votes, delegates, super delegates and states. I rest my abacus.

Hillary has 29000

more popular votes than Obama. That is a fact.

By hufflarry2000 May 18, 2008 - 9:46am

Understand me when I say this...I'm not 'anti-Hillary'. But she was the only dem on the ballot in Fla. and in Mich she shared the ballot with Kucinich. Of course she got those votes. Let's have a "do over" with everyone's name on the ballot. That would be the fair way...no? Wasn't the understanding that these two states would not have their delagates seated if they broke the rules by holding their primaries when they did?

(Personally, as an Oregonian, I think that we should hold rotating primaries. But that isn't the issue here)

Obama was on the ballot in Florida.

Neither candidate campaigned in either state. Michigan usually holds caucuses in the Dem party. This year they held a primary. When the Obama campaign found that out, they removed his name from the ballot because they knew he would lose there.

y hufflarry2000 May 18, 2008 - 10:25am

When the Obama campaign found that out, they removed his name from the ballot because they knew he would lose there

Show me the proof. As I'd said before, I'm not anti-Hillary.

If he didnt remove his name from FL

why did he in MI?

By hufflarry2000 May 18, 2008 - 12:23pm

"If he didnt remove his name from FL why did he in MI?"

“You know, it’s clear, this election they’re having [in Michigan] is not going to count for anything.”
-Senator Hillary Clinton, 11 October 2007

By roadgoddessMay 18, 2008 - 10:07am

(Personally, as an Oregonian, I think that we should hold rotating primaries. But that isn't the issue here)

I agree. This system is a joke. If your state goes last then you really do not get to participate in the process. They need perhaps 2-4 super tuesdays. And end it at that.

By hufflarry2000May 18, 2008 - 9:46am

Hillary has 29000
more popular votes than Obama. That is a fact.

Even if that were true it would be meaningless.

What is your point. I'll just accept your number. She has 29,000 more votes. So what? What do I do with that number?

I can't add caucus states. I don't know how FL and MI would turn out if it they had counted. So in all the states you can count them, she supposedly leads. And you want to nominate her on that?

Give me a break.

Caucus states are caucuses

not primaries. That is how those states decided to choose delegates. That is why you cant count them like a primary. I want to nominate her because she will win and Obama will lose.

Caucus states are

Caucus states are caucuses
not primaries. That is how those states decided to choose delegates. That is why you cant count them like a primary

Exactly. Which means this argument about popular vote is meaningless.

If you want to use popular vote then you need to change the system and have primaries in each state.

By hufflarry2000May 18, 2008 - 4:22pm

I want to nominate her because she will win and Obama will lose.

You're insane. When she first ran for senate it was obvious it was to run for the white house. And I knew back then she would never be president.

But assume you get your wish. Get ready for one of two scenarios:

1. Hillary embraces the anti-Bush war policy that helped bring democrats power in congress. In this scenario you will be confronted with a second round of "flip-flop" spin.

2. Hillary avoids the flip-flop argument by continuing to embrace a hawkish attitude towards Iran and proclaiming it was indeed a good idea to give Bush power to invade Iraq.

Which scenario would you hope for?

How many times has Obama voted

to fund the war? So much for your latest argument.Kyl-Lieberman does not give Bush power to invade Iran.

By hufflarry2000May 18, 2008 - 4:35pm

We can debate what is the best strategy. Should the democrats fund the war or should they ring it to an end by stopping the funding? You and I might even be in agreement.

But that issue is not the same as voting to give authorization for Bush to use force. Furthermore it does not address the issue of the right wing talking point: flip-flop.

You tell us the racism of the US is real and we must not be naive Well we already saw how gullible the people are when it comes to talking points like flip flop.

So which would you prefer if Clinton somehow pulls this off?

Should she keep being hawkish and say her vote was good? Or should she take on the flip-flop spin and hope she does better than Kerry?

By hufflarry2000May 18, 2008 - 4:35pm

How many times has Obama voted
to fund the war? So much for your latest argument.Kyl-Lieberman does not give Bush power to invade Iran.

You know you are making the claim that Hillary is electable and Obama is not.

Well I've raised a real issue here that you are responding to not inregards to electability but regarding Hillary vs. Obama. What you are doing is trying to say Obama and Hillary are not distinguishable on this issue. Well as I said in another repsonse to this post of yours, voting to fund the war is not the same but certainly a worthy discussion.

Now you need to consider this issue more truthfully. Do you mean to tell me that in the fall when the Obama-McCain race is in full swing, that if a right winger tells you that Obama must have supported the invasion because he has voted to fund the troops that you are going to agree with that nonsense?

I'd like to know because either you are so wrapped up in your candidate that you can't think straight or you are indeed a right winger posing as a democrat.

I do not vote Republican

I have never voted Republican. You are voting Republican by default with your support of Obama. No one knows how Obama would have voted on the war. He does vote to fund it. That shows little difference between he and Hillary on the issue of Iraq.

By hufflarry2000May 18, 2008 - 5:05pm

**Sigh**

And I thought you might actually address the issue. But instead you switch topics and and stand by warped logic.

I think you must have been a republican all along. Your tactics are just the same.

I addressed the issue

but not in the way you wanted. This issue is simple to me. Obama was not in the senate when the Iraq war vote happened. He now votes to fund the war, same as Hillary. I see little difference in the 2 candidates on this issue. And I dont care what you think.

By hufflarry2000May 18, 2008 - 5:24pm

You did not address the issue. You stuck to a worn out argument that Obama must have supported the invasion because since then he has voted to fund the troops.

The issue was Hillary's two choices. If she were the nominee she could either stay hawkish and avoid the flip-flop argument (which would turn off many who oppose the Bush war policies, or she could embrace the anti-war message and face the flip-flop argument head on.

Basically you either do not understand the complications this would cause Hillary as a candidate or you just might be a republican.

I guess we'll see what happens when the Obama-McCain race heats up. You might look a little silly arguing against talking points the right will use when you are using the same now to defend Hillary and make her policies look the same as Obamas. But then again maybe you don't care if you look silly or not.

PS - as to this statement: "I addressed the issue
but not in the way you wanted."

I didn't care how you addressed it as long as you actually addressed it, which you did not.

By hufflarry2000 May 18, 2008 - 5:24pm

"Obama was not in the senate when the Iraq war vote happened. He now votes to fund the war, same as Hillary. I see little difference in the 2 candidates on this issue."

True, he wasn't in the Senate, but that speech he gave OPPOSING the war, as Hillary voted for it, is a pretty good indicator of how he would have voted.

True, he has also voted to fund the troops who were/are already in Iraq, in part, because of Hillary's vote for the war in Iraq.

I see the difference. There is a difference between voting to send the military into harms way and leaving them stranded after they were sent.

BTW: Where's Kucinich (my first choice) right now? He never voted to fund the troops that Hillary helped Bush send into the quagmire of Iraq. I know that Kucinich and Hillary won't beat McCain in November; both have already lost.

As a Woman....

...I repeat, I will vote for Hillary should she be the Dem candidate against McSame.

She is just my last choice amongst that f**cking outstanding field of candidates that we had at the beginning. I blame the media for it having come to this. It's not a matter of gender or race. It's about the best qualified. Experience counts, but so does policy. Policy trumps experience with my vote.

BTW...Florida and Michigan should get "do over" votes that include everyone who was in the running at that time....not just the Hillary votes. If we allowed those delagates to be seated, they should be representative of the candidates available at that time, not just the one who went against the rules and ran in those two states.

You can't win in November

without Hillary voters. They stay home, vote McCain ,write-in, or vote 3rd party (lotsa choices there) that's it. But keep digging.

Sexism and Misogyny

As a 65-year-old woman, I must say I am disappointed by the arguments in the foregoing comments. All the arguments seem to deal with some form of, "she got more popular votes", "Obama has more delegates", "she's more hated". People need to watch, listen, and make their decisions on what they are actually witnessing, not on what the pundits are telling them to decide.

The Clinton administration took our country further to the right for the single purpose of getting Bill Clinton reelected in 1996. (NAFTA is only one example of the new right-wing agenda adopted by Bill Clinton and strongly supported by Hillary.) Because of Bill Clinton's triangulation, the Democrats lost both houses to the Republicans in 1994.

Hillary began her campaign by presenting herself has one of the major figures responsible for the success of the '92-2000 administration. When that didn't work, she used the evil "boys v. girls" argument. Then she used tears to convince the public that she was a very sensitive woman, wife, mother. She repackaged herself from the Wellesley graduate cum millionaire to the Scranton blue-collar granddaughter and daughter who learned to shoot at Lake Winola. When that didn't work, she became loud and nasty. Then she became a political assassin who would destroy anyone in her path -- the party be damned. She has lately fashioned herself into the relentless fighter for the little people.

All this goes to the questions: which Hillary am I voting for? How often and easily will she change to ensure her reelection in 2012 if she gets the White House in '09? What are her true values and will she stick to even one of her promised issues? All she has done throughout her campaign is prove to this woman that nothing has any value for her other than her obsessive desire to become president. That latter personality trait is the one that is most frightening. If, like George W. Bush, she does not get her way, or if any foreign leader dares to disagree with her, will she decide, as Bush did, to employ the preemptive strike because she wants her way-- she wants what she believe belongs to her!

I will not vote for a candidate in November simply because that candidate is a woman and it is time a woman rose to that position. I will vote for the person who has calm, well thought through judgment. The person who makes the effort to listen to and try to understand all sides, including the people of the United States. The person whose decisions will be predicated upon full information. No one's vote should be made because a candidate is an African American or a woman -- particularly if that woman is one who clearly symbolizes an individual who says, "I want what I want when I want it. Especially because I spent so many years supporting my husband and his ambitions. I helped make him president. Now I demand what I am owed -- I want to be president."

Which candidate will be more accountable to the people? Which candidate's entire agenda is based on what the general public is demanding? Which candidate has been most consistent, not pandering? Since the two democratic candidates virtually agree on all major issues, the voters' choice should be for the person who has, for the last 15 or 16 months, kept to the compact made with the American people from the first day of the campaign in 2007 through to and including today, not for the constant shape-shifter that frustrates our every attempt to embrace her.

Wow!! You spoke for me on this one!

Well said fellow female over 50. Your wisdom and integrity come through boldly in your words. I would say you sized up my exact thoughts and opinion on the matter of Hillary! Well stated!!

OUTSTANDING!

Why Pat, if I were a just few years older I'd try to woo you.

Yes, Clinton did indeed PULL OUR PARTY TO THE RIGHT in a successful attempt to undermine the Republicans... But what kind of a victory is that?

We can do better.

We can break the iron-grip of trans-national corporatists that have drained the last drop of blood from the American middle-class and turned our nation into nothing but a mark to be economically exploited like so many RUBES at a carnival.

THAT is why I support Obama over Clinton.

Switching from a Right-Wing Corporate Power Structure to a Left-Wing Corporate Power Structure IS NO CHANGE AT ALL.

We need to change the very way we THINK about who we are as a nation.

=========================

PICK ONE:

1) UNITED WE STAND.

2) EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.

Lifting the Veil

Thank you Pat, for lifting the veil on some of the Clinton mythology. As a 61 year old African-American man, I know from personal experience, along with other Americans, how unaccountable the Clintons can be. Arguably, the Clintons could not have won the White House without the black vote and Bill pandered plenty to get our votes. When the Clintons left office, I wondered what they had done, in total, for black folks. I was stunned to realize that there was nothing substantive I could indentify. In fact, what I could identify is the following: Both supported NAFTA which meant bye-bye to hundreds of thousdands of jobs; Welfare Reform meant pulling the rug out of poor whites and blacks without a viable alternative and; the betrayal of Lani Guinier by Bill. Mrs. Guinier would have become the first black Attorney General in U.S. history. Bill Clinton backed down and withdrew his support for her when the Republicans called her "the quota queen". Lani had been an actual friend of Bill's. If that's what you do to a friend...

Today, his wife, who managed to lose the support of black voters, now panders to " women and the white working class". All I can say to these folks is "ask for it in writing".

A most excellent post, Pat. Kudos!

"Bitch may be the new black but black is the new President, bitch."
Tracy Morgan, SNL

I think you sized the issues up

very accurately. You, in my opinion were focused and fair on this piece. I am not familiar with you but I will make a point of reading your blog in the future if you are this reasoned and in my opinion this accurate as a rule.
Of the 2 Dems I prefer Obama. I will support Hillary if she is the nominee. She has grit and brains! I hope which ever of the two prevails, that we will elect a Rooseveltesue President and not a slick sell out bs politician. I am hoping for a GENUINELY brighter future.

Bravo!!

Bravo, well said!

gender and race

For centuries gender and race have been tied together when discussing the possibility of a Black or women presidential candidate or president. This discussion has raged on for years, revolving around the question "would you vote for a women or Black presidential candidate?" However, occasionally in American history that question has not been enough and must be separated to ask whether the American people would rather vote for a Black presidential candidate or a women presidential candidate. The outcome of such questions has shown that gender stereotypes are overwhelmingly, more difficult to escape than racial stereotypes in American Presidential elections based on long-standing societal, patriarchal norms that are formulated on the basis that ours is a nation built by males.

Opinion surveys are one way of determining voter preferences in which participants are asked direct questions like "If your party nominated a woman for President, would you vote for her if she were qualified for the job?", which have concluded a strong similarity attraction in the form of pro-female biases among women, pro-black biases among Blacks, and pro-white male biases among white males (Sigelman and Sigelman, 1982). Additionally the data suggests that the similarity bias becomes less relevant sooner when participants had to choose between a Black or white female President.

In a 2007 Gallup Poll 94 percent of Americans polled claimed that they would vote for a Black candidate in comparison to the 88 percent of Americans would vote for a woman President. This remained the trend in subsequent polls until 1975 when Black candidates started polling better than women Presidential candidates in America, though this says more about American's changing attitudes toward Black men than the current polling figures.

There have been two major changes in American presidential elections that increasingly place more emphasis on the candidate's sex or race than previously thought. In a pre-World War II era the Nation was very concerned with party identification and loyalty in deciding voter choice (Jacobson 1992). As the importance of party identification lessens the importance of a corresponding, strict party-line voting lowers as well. The result is an increasing importance of the candidate individual and the individuality of the voter. As time and society allows an increasingly diverse candidate pool the varied studies on voter choice become obsolete. The American Presidency is no longer a white, male dominant institution, but instead has an increasing amount of candidates from differing backgrounds, races, and genders (McDermott, 1998).

As relevant as the question between race and sex has become it is impossible to determine if gender stereotypes are more prevalent than racial stereotypes using election outcomes as there has never been a minority president (Black or female). The closest that the United States ever came to having representation in the White House was in 1984 with the Vice Presidential nominee of Geraldine Ferraro, but the Mondale and Ferraro campaign lost, arguably due to Mondale and not Ferraro.

However, voters do not feel that gender is a factor in local or even state offices. Many women hold State or local office and some of that data has been used sparingly, because of the vast difference between National, State, and local elections and offices. But, there is data to suggest that as the perceived prestige of the office increases, so does the importance of the candidate's gender (Ambrosius and Welch, 1984).

The American presidency has become synonymous with maleness or masculine characteristics, which limits the acceptance of women who run for the presidency. A woman must walk a tenuous line between what is considered "masculine" and what is "feminine." Additionally straying from one's gender roles may also interfere or hinder the candidate's chances at winning the presidency, whereas adhering strictly to one's gender roles may exclude a candidate from the process, thus lessening their chances to win the Presidency. An androgynous woman who combined the two, gender roles may have a greater chance at winning, but only when coupled with the timing and knowledge of exhibiting the accepted trait at the right time. An androgynous woman could still display "masculine" characteristics at the inappropriate times, or vise versa, and be penalized for the error (Rosenwasser and Seale, 1988). Rosenwasser's study collaborates the findings of Butterfield and Powell (1981) which suggest that a "good president" is perceived as "masculine."

The difference between perceived leadership styles of a male or woman, when leadership style is viewed as a fairly constant political behavior, can also be a factor in determining the barriers that women are faced with when running for the Presidency. Female candidates worry about the perception that their behavior creates, especially in "projecting gravitas," as former U.S. Congressional Represenatative and Presidential hopeful, Patricia Schroeder noted (Shoroeder, 1999). 'Gravitas,' a quality of accepted substance or depth of personality or having a mastery of one's emotions, has been widely attributed to males from ancient Roman society. In opposition, men are almost expected to project masculine behavior because they have cornered the political market for so many years that the American public has grown accustomed to the patriarchal society(Carli and Eagly, 2001).

There are two aspects of gender roles, agnetic and communal, that help define a person's leadership style (Eagly, et al., 2000). Agnetic characteristics are more dominantly attributed to males. Agnetic characteristics are usually associated with an assertiveness, controlling, and confident persona or behavioral pattern. In a presidential election, agnetic traits would be associated with speaking assertively, showing initiative, and making problem-focused suggestions or solutions. Communal characteristics are more closely aligned with women, associated with a general concern for the welfare of others, affection, sympathy, and "gentle" behaviors. Communal traits in a presidential election would be associated with tentative speaking styles, acceptance, and a willingness to help solve a relational or interpersonal problem (Cali and Eagly, 2001).

Agnetic and communal are leadership style characteristics closely aligned with gender roles, but not to be mistaken for over-arching gender roles of "masculine" or "feminine." In a presidential election a "masculine" issue or platform may be increasing National security, immigration, gun control, defense, and the budget, whereas "feminine" issues might be more associated with health care, education or literacy, discrimination, elderly, and traditional values. In Rosenwasser's supplemental data (1987), a trend was found to establish clear proof that "masculine" presidential duties rated higher than "feminine" presidential duties in terms of importance. "Feminine" duties were rated significantly lower than duties that were perceived to be "masculine" or gender "neutral". "Masculine" duties were rated higher than gender "neutral," presidential duties.

As Eagly (et al, 2000.) argued, the interchange between agnetic, masculine, communal, or feminine behaviors occurs not only because individuals interact with leaders in gendered terms and leaders respond accordingly or in a manner that they feel is expected, but also because most people have very set, internalized genered roles and ideologies. This interchange of social identities, allows for men and women to have differing expectations for their own behavior, based on the audience and the situation in which they are faced. The perceived requirements for a male or female leader fluctuates between the agnetic or masculine and communal or feminine spectrums (Carli and Eagly, 2001). If a woman fails to exhibit, what the audience, society, and the media interprets as "appropriate" communal or feminine behavior they can be negatively evaluated for the violation, however they may also gain some form of positive feedback from the event as well.

There is abundant evidence to suggest that people consistently use similarity as a major tool in determining likability, attractiveness, and vote-ability. The similarity effect not only shapes a person's attitudes and values, but also extends to a candidates sex and race (Olsen and Williamsen, 1978). Similarly, Hershey's 1980 survey of Indiana University students showed that black students were more likely to vote for black candidates and white students to vote for white candidates, of similar qualifications. The female students were more likely to support minority candidates than males were, were especially supportive of female candidates. Additionally experimental studies have included that there is a direct causal link between the perceived attractiveness of a male candidate being position and a negative, for a likewise attractive female candidate (Sigelman and Sigelman, 1982).

Approaching surveys in a manner that eliminates or lessens the risk of conscious bias and societal pressures, Sapiro (1981-2) designed a survey where participants read an anonymous speech by a candidate and asked to record the candidate's sex. Half of the participants believed that the speech was given by a male and half by a female. Whereas the second part of the survey outcomes supported other similar surveys indicating that significantly more participants though that the perceived male would win the election, though no definite voting preference was recorded. Such results offer up the alternative conclusion that females are less likely perceived to win the election, than the assumed male candidate (Rosenwasser, et al., 1987).

However, these studies also call attention to their participant pool, made of primarily college students who are younger and more educated than the general American citizenry, which affects voter turnout and support (powell, 1986). Also due to the participants education level and age the political ideologies may also be disproportionate to the rest of the nation as the participants were chosen at random and not by representative demographics based on past, Presidential elections. Large scale participant pools tend to have similar sampling problems when dealing with voting, as participants often over-exaggerate their voting behavior and report false figures or outcomes (Anderson and Silver 1986) because they know their behavior to be unpopular among like-minded individuals.

In American presidential elections women candidates are judged more harshly than male counterparts. In an article in the New York Times referencing Patricia Schroeder's announcement not to continue her campaign for Democratic Presidential nominee in 1987, the public were asked, "are female tears saltier than male tears?" When announcing the end of her presidential candidacy bid, Schroeder cried at her own press conference, in a move that has been harshly criticized by men and women politicians, alike. However, critics were not as sharp when Senator and Presidential hopeful, Gary Hart, or Massachusetts Governor and Democratic Party Presidential nominee, Michael Dukakis grew tearful in front of the American public (Weinraub, 1987).

In the 2008 Presidential campaign, New York Senator and Presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton choked up on more than one occasion in public and was overwhelmingly blasted in the media as being "uncharacteristic" (Snow and Parker, 2008) or "womanly." Former Barack Obama campaign advisor, and retired Gen. Merrill A. McPeak, said in a telephone interview that Obama has "real gravitas, not artificially created, focus-grouped, poll-directed, rehearsed gravitas (Wallsten, 2008)." Though Clinton was simultaneously criticized for being too "masculine" in public. To counteract harsh criticism in situations where a woman is found, or perceived, to be "exceptionally overqualified, can women hope to succeed" in climbing the political ladder. Women who are perceived to have only average ability have "little, if any, chance for success (Bowman, et al, 1965.).

In a study performed by Adams (1975) females, Blacks, and other minority candidates were ran against male or nonminority candidates in a simulated election of university students. Black candidates faced a considerable advantage, with females having a slight lead over other minority candidates in local and state elections. In simulated National elections, Blacks received a proportionate amount of the votes suggesting that they are the dominant minority, whereas women received considerably fewer votes than had been previously expected.

In the arena of American Presidential elections there exists many, well-documented studies that show there is a clear "standard operating procedure" for deciding who to vote for in a Presidential election. This "procedure" does not take into account party loyalty or identification, instead focuses on the conscious or subconscious thought processes that surround the differences between race and gender. This "standard operating procedure" consists of white males, males of other races, white females and, arguably at the bottom, a female from a minority. All of this is predicated on the fact that American societal norms remain current and do not make a drastic shift as in 1958 where the majority of the American public, polled stronger in favor of a Black President, rather than a woman. Gender stereotypes are overwhelmingly, more difficult to overcome than racial stereotypes because our country is based on a patriarchal society that emphasizes the importance of men over women which affects every facet of our society. Women will always be evaluated based on perceptions and stereotypes instead of the merit of the individual, unless common societal norms are changed.

The fact remains that Obama is male and Clinton is female, but the twist in this particular election is ageism. Many studies have shown that there is a clear link between ageism and electability in elections and the perceived age bubble in which a person is thought to be "presidential." Let's not forget that Obama is the youngest candidate, followed by Hillary and finally McCain. Is McCain even electable because of his age, is Hillary?

Hillary has her own individual negatives

But since the culture is misogynist, pundits, bloggers & even lefty obama-supporters used sexist terminology to express their criticisms of her. (EG for Booman's sake "how do we beat the bitch' uttered by some god-fearing conservative hatey-chick to McCain +OR any set of commentary attached to a Hillary-related article at huffpo). By and large, there has been little backlash against the sexist slurs (unless the New Hampshire win was a backlash against "iron my shirt!" - which seems possible).

Racist slurs, by contrast, are seen as way over-the-line. They haven't really been used anywhere mainstream. (Again Booman says there's been high profile racist language, but I haven't seen it - not even by Rush Limpboy - o hey, I think that was a sexist joke against men - my bad)
Instead they have done the more underhanded racist 'inference' thing that is epitomized by the rev. wright media frenzy. This tactic wasn't really used against Hillary (as in, trying to tie her to lesbian separatists or something). I don't know which is more damaging to a political candidate actually - casual contempt or rumor-mongering.

The difference must be proximity / familiarity. Women (to men) are an 'other' that they deal with everyday & have personal issues about. Blacks (to whites, etc) are a more abstract, distant 'other' that can be scape-goated for societal or personal failings.

ps. for Boo: what is the difference between sexism and misogyny? is it just a matter of degree? cuz we don't have two words for racism.

Obama will announce his nomination victory in a week or two

At that point Hillary will not be able to mathematically overtake Obama in delegates.

Hillary will concede. She is already changing her tone in public. But the small number of her supporters that I consider a cult following will go nuts. Break out the popcorn.

The Hillary plan is to get super delegates to mass defect to her

Well the problem is that several of her delegates have switched to Obama recently. Furthermore it is fine to have this generic scenario of delegate defection at the last minute. But seriously. I wish someone would offer up names. Who are the super delegates of Obama's that are wavering? Which would be likely to be easily persuaded to switch?

The Clinton campaign has not

The Clinton campaign has not been trying to convince people that a black man is unelectable. This is a typical smear that Obama supporters started launching against Clinton when Bill dismissed his victory in South Carolina. Dismissing a victory in a particular state with an overwhelmingly black democratic electorate is not about convincing people a black man can't be elected. Obama was heavily favored for that very reason by a variety of commentators prior to the election.

Any candidate who attended a church for 20 years where the minister was recorded saying "God Damn America!" would have been subjected to the same interrogation. This was about the only time the media treated Obama as a typical candidate, instead of swooning over him, and his response that he wasn't aware of this, was the disingenuous response typical of most politicians.

The sexism has been rampant, and there has been no equivalent racist treatment of Obama.
Chris Mathews has been running a misogynistic, hate-filled show, that started before Hilary even entered the race, when he referred to her delay in announcing as "coy". He has also called her Mme DeFarge, and Eva Peron.

On this very station, Belzer ran a week long hate-fest. With many sexist comments preceded by the line "I'm not a sexist"

He's not sexist, but Hilary's ambition disgusts him. When is a male politician ever critcized for ambition?

He's not sexist, but "Hilary never wears anything feminine, she wants to be a man!" If he had said something equally racist, such as: "Obama doesn't have a great big afro or dreadlocks, he wants to be white!", he'd be off the station within the hour.

Hillary did't play the race card?

What do you call

"Senator Obama's support among working, hardworking Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me. There's a pattern emerging here." ?

When Obama supporters talk

When Obama supporters talk about the youth vote, are they being ageist? Are you allowed to talk about any group which votes for you except white voters?

It wasn't a skillful thing to say. Hilary's not a skillful communicator, which is one of the reasons Obama would be a better candidate, but it's not playing the race card.

Playing the race, gender, or anti-gay card is about using inflammatory words and images (almost never by the candidate themselves) in order to inspire feelings of rage or disgust. Like John McCain's "illegitimate black baby", or starting a whisper-campaign that Ann Richard's was part of a gay mafia, or the constant attacks on Hilary's "feminity" or lack thereof.

When they talk about the youth vote

they are talking about bringing voters into the dialogue who have been missing. Young people have been coming out in the primaries in unprecedented numbers. They tend to support Obama, not because he panders to them, but because he represents what they want.

If you want to write Hillary's comments down to lack of communication skills, go ahead. For me, after 30 years in public life, and in a campaign where every posture and movement has been scripted, I'm not buying it.

booboo says

...I haven't seen a single example of a high profile blogger in the left-wing blogosphere using overtly sexist language...

"Billary" is an insult, but not "Cindohn" or "Micharack".
What could be more of a sexest dynamic staring at you
directly. I guess it just blew right over your punkin head.

By dewbie dubai May 20, 2008 - 4:08am

Re: Billary

I guess you forgot Bill saying "When you vote for me, you get two for one." I haven't forgotten, and that's one of many reasons why I support Obama.

Thats not the point.expat.

So what you get two experienced politicians. There was nothing wrong with
them using that as a selling point.Certainly nothing to base a negative on.
And I never faulted Hillary for not wanting to remain docile in her husband's shadow.

I voted for Obama this morning in the Oregon. I had to run the ballot by the drop-off box (its not just a mail-in vote, persay, because they have
drive-up drop-off slotted boxes around town that one can slide the envelope into, up until later on Tuesday night, and still get their vote counted).

My pen just slid over there on its own, and filled in the Obama box.
(It was Hillary's war vote that finally doomed her. Nothing else).

When the U.S. military left Afghanistan without Bin Laden's head,
that sealed the war effort with me. The United Nations had the Iraq
situation close enough in tow. There was no reason to deploy U.S. troops in Iraq, even with the threat of possible nuclear materials (far from nuclear capabilities).

No reason for bush to intervene against U.N wishes and goals.
Even less for Hillary to sign on to that.
Obama didn't take us into Iraq.
Obama got my vote.
End of story.
Next.

"Let's reserve a state for the worshipers of the mundane.
And another state for the hopelessly chronic theatrical."

-aaazzz111

Twofer

You can't run as a twofer and complain about Billary as a nickname.

You can't avoid being a twofer when your married

Case in point:
george bush Sr. and Jr.--nobody made fun
of their "twoferness".

Nobody called them georgegeorge.

Its okay for children to be parasitic of their
parents, but in a female-male relationship,
the woman is a gold-digger to the man.

Or in the case of McCain, the man is a
gigolo or male escort.

Michele Obama is as capable as Hillary to run
for political office in the future. We will see
if by that time, it will be the norm, and not
some sexual titillation for the bored as it is
of present.

Uou can't avoid being one

but you can avoid using it. The played up the point to no end and now you complain when it is turned into a nick name. When Hillary makes a big deal out of experience, do you think she is talking about the extra half a senate term? You can't have it both ways.