Sunday, March 27
It's Easter Sunday, but that hasn't tempered the holier-than-thou fury of the religious right and the Terri Schiavo tragedy. Today we step back and look at progressive values - where actions and deeds often come before evangelizing and belief-based bullying.
Today's show includes an update from Ohio, where Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell got a dressing-down from passionate Democrats in hearings the media saw fit to ignore this week. Our senior producer was there and we'll play tape. Monty Python's TERRY JONES will join us live in studio to discuss Spamalot the Python's arrival on Broadway -- and "Terry Jones's War on the War on Terror," his latest collection of "observations and denunciations." Also with us, Nigeria's Nobel Prize-winner, WOLE SOYINKA who says we are questing for dignity in a dehumanized world. Join us.
- March 28, 2005








"Election reform? What ele...
"Election reform? What election reform?" That's what I keep hearing from my main stream media addicted friends. Heck, if you listened to the corporate media channels you might think the vote fraud in Ohio and elsewhere was a bad dream. But while the MSM remains fascinated with medically made zombies and other horrors, small parties and independent groups are making a difference, under the radar. Example:
Burlington, Vermont Greens mobilized to agitate for Instand Runoff Voting and, on March 1st, the referendum on question 5 passed in a landslide. That same day, question 7 also passed by a similar margin. "What was question 7?" I hear you ask. Check it out:
QUESTION 7
"Shall the voters of the City of Burlington advise the President and Congress that Burlington and its citizens strongly support the men and women serving in the United States Armed Forces in Iraq and believe that the best way to support them is to bring them home now?"
Reform has to take place on a local level. With a dominate Republican party and a suppliant Republican-lite party in power, expecting any kind of progress on issues that affect our democracy is beyond ludicrous. There is NO incentive for the two corporate owned parties to do anything but fill the pockets of their contributors while throwing tidbits to their undemanding base. Are you going to sit back and cheer from the sidelines? Or do you want to join the fight? Here's a couple opportunities you won't hear about from the conservative media and it's faux-progressive counterpart:
APRIL 8-10 'Gathering To Save Our Democracy National Conference on the 2004 Election and the Need for Election Reform', in Nashville, TN. David Cobb is scheduled to speak on Saturday, April 9; numerous other grassroots voting rights and civil rights activists will also speak. The Green Party of Tennessee is a cosponsor.
http://tn.greens.org/
http://www.freepress.org/conf.php (includes information on location, costs, lodging, scheduled events)
APRIL 15-17 Mass Mobilization and protests during the spring meetings of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, in Washington, DC.
Mobilization for Global Justice http://www.globalizethis.org
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 12:28amVery Telling, Not Only About...
Very Telling, Not Only About Letting Go
DeLay's Own Tragic Crossroads
Family of the lawmaker involved in the Schiavo case decided in '88 to let his comatose father die.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-delay27mar27,0,5710...
By Walter F. Roche Jr. and Sam Howe Verhovek
Times Staff Writers
March 27, 2005
CANYON LAKE, Texas — A family tragedy that unfolded in a Texas hospital during the fall of 1988 was a private ordeal — without judges, emergency sessions of Congress or the debate raging outside Terri Schiavo's Florida hospice.
The patient then was a 65-year-old drilling contractor, badly injured in a freak accident at his home. Among the family members keeping vigil at Brooke Army Medical Center was a grieving junior congressman — Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Texas).
More than 16 years ago, far from the political passions that have defined the Schiavo controversy, the DeLay family endured its own wrenching end-of-life crisis. The man in a coma, kept alive by intravenous lines and oxygen equipment, was DeLay's father, Charles Ray DeLay.
Then, freshly reelected to a third term in the House, the 41-year-old DeLay waited, all but helpless, for the verdict of doctors.
Today, as House Majority Leader, DeLay has teamed with his Senate counterpart, Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), to champion political intervention in the Schiavo case. They pushed emergency legislation through Congress to shift the legal case from Florida state courts to the federal judiciary.
And DeLay is among the strongest advocates of keeping the woman, who doctors say has been in a persistent vegetative state for 15 years, connected to her feeding tube. DeLay has denounced Schiavo's husband, as well as judges, for committing what he calls "an act of barbarism" in removing the tube.
In 1988, however, there was no such fiery rhetoric as the congressman quietly joined the sad family consensus to let his father die.
"There was no point to even really talking about it," Maxine DeLay, the congressman's 81-year-old widowed mother, recalled in an interview last week. "There was no way [Charles] wanted to live like that. Tom knew — we all knew — his father wouldn't have wanted to live that way."
Doctors advised that he would "basically be a vegetable," said the congressman's aunt, JoAnne DeLay.
When his father's kidneys failed, the DeLay family decided against connecting him to a dialysis machine. "Extraordinary measures to prolong life were not initiated," said his medical report, citing "agreement with the family's wishes." His bedside chart carried the instruction: "Do not resuscitate."
On Dec. 14, 1988, the DeLay patriarch "expired with his family in attendance."
"The situation faced by the congressman's family was entirely different than Terri Schiavo's," said a spokesman for the majority leader, who declined requests for an interview.
"The only thing keeping her alive is the food and water we all need to survive. His father was on a ventilator and other machines to sustain him," said Dan Allen, DeLay's press aide.
There were also these similarities: Both stricken patients were severely brain-damaged. Both were incapable of surviving without medical assistance. Both were said to have expressed a desire to be spared from being kept alive by artificial means. And neither of them had a living will.
This previously unpublished account of the majority leader's personal brush with life-ending decisions was assembled from court files, medical records and interviews with family members.
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It was a pleasant late afternoon in the Hill Country of Texas on Nov. 17, 1988.
At Charles and Maxine DeLay's home, set on a limestone bluff of cedars and live oaks, it also was a moment of triumph. Charles and his brother, Jerry DeLay, two avid tinkerers, had just finished work on a new backyard tram — an elevator-like device that would carry family and friends down a 200-foot slope to the blue-green waters of Canyon Lake.
The two men called for their wives to hop aboard. Charles pushed the button and the maiden run began. Within seconds, a horrific screeching noise echoed across the still lake — "a sickening sound," said a neighbor. The tram was in trouble.
Maxine, seated up front in the four-passenger trolley, said her husband repeatedly tried to engage the emergency brake, but the rail car kept picking up speed. Halfway down the bank, it was free-wheeling, according to accident investigators.
Moments later, it jumped the track and slammed into a tree, scattering passengers and debris in all directions.
"It was awful, just awful," recalled Karl Braddick, now 86, the DeLays' neighbor at the time. "I came running over, and it was a terrible sight."
He called for emergency help. Rescue workers had trouble bringing the injured victims up the steep terrain. Jerry's wife, JoAnne, suffered broken bones and a shattered elbow. Charles, who had been thrown head-first into a tree, was in grave condition.
"He was all but gone," said Braddick, gesturing at the spot of the accident as he offered a visitor a ride down to the lake in his own tram. "He would have been better off if he'd died right there and then."
But Charles DeLay hung on. In the ambulance on his way to a hospital in New Braunfels 15 miles away, he tried to speak.
"He wasn't making any sense; it was mainly just cuss words," recalled Maxine with a faint, fond smile.
Four hours later, he was airlifted by helicopter to the Brooke Army Medical Center at Ft. Sam Houston. Admission records show he arrived with multiple injuries, including broken ribs and a brain hemorrhage.
Tom DeLay flew to his father's bedside, where, along with his two brothers and a sister, they joined their mother. In the weeks that followed, the congressman made repeated trips back from Washington, his family said. Maxine seldom left her husband's side.
"Mama stayed at the hospital with him all the time. Oh, it was terrible for everyone," said Alvina "Vi" Skogen, a former sister-in-law of the congressman. Neighbor Braddick visited the hospital and said it seemed very clear to everyone that there was little prospect of recovery.
"He had no consciousness that I could see," Braddick said. "He did a bit of moaning and groaning, I guess, but you could see there was no way he was coming back."
Maxine DeLay agreed that she was never aware of any consciousness on her husband's part during the long days of her bedside vigil — with one possible exception.
"Whenever Randy walked into the room, his heart, his pulse rate, would go up a little bit," she said of their son, Randall, the congressman's younger brother, who lives near Houston.
Doctors conducted a series of tests, including scans of his head, face, neck and abdomen. They checked for lung damage and performed a tracheostomy to assist his breathing. But they could not prevent steady deterioration.
Then, infections complicated the senior DeLay's fight for life. Finally, his organs began to fail. His family and physicians confronted the dreaded choice so many other Americans have faced: to make heroic efforts or to let the end come.
"Daddy did not want to be a vegetable," said Skogen, one of his daughters-in-law at the time. "There was no decision for the family to make. He made it for them."
The preliminary decision to withhold dialysis and other treatments fell to Maxine along with Randall and her daughter Tena — and "Tom went along." He raised no objection, said the congressman's mother.
Family members said they prayed.
Jerry DeLay "felt terribly about the accident" that injured his brother, said his wife, JoAnne. "He prayed that, if [Charles] couldn't have quality of life, that God would take him — and that is exactly what he did."
Charles Ray DeLay died at 3:17 a.m., according to his death certificate, 27 days after plummeting down the hillside.
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The family then turned to lawyers.
In 1990, the DeLays filed suit against Midcap Bearing Corp. of San Antonio and Lovejoy Inc. of Illinois, the distributor and maker of a coupling that the family said had failed and caused the tram to hurtle out of control.
The family's wrongful death lawsuit accused the companies of negligence and sought actual and punitive damages. Lawyers for the companies denied the allegations and countersued the surviving designer of the tram system, Jerry DeLay.
The case thrust Rep. DeLay into unfamiliar territory — the front page of a civil complaint as a plaintiff. He is an outspoken defender of business against what he calls the crippling effects of "predatory, self-serving litigation."
The DeLay family litigation sought unspecified compensation for, among other things, the dead father's "physical pain and suffering, mental anguish and trauma," and the mother's grief, sorrow and loss of companionship.
Their lawsuit also alleged violations of the Texas product liability law.
The DeLay case moved slowly through the Texas judicial system, accumulating more than 500 pages of motions, affidavits and disclosures over nearly three years. Among the affidavits was one filed by the congressman, but family members said he had little direct involvement in the lawsuit, leaving that to his brother Randall, an attorney.
Rep. DeLay, who since has taken a leading role promoting tort reform, wants to rein in trial lawyers to protect American businesses from what he calls "frivolous, parasitic lawsuits" that raise insurance premiums and "kill jobs."
Last September, he expressed less than warm sentiment for attorneys when he took the floor of the House to condemn trial lawyers who, he said, "get fat off the pain" of plaintiffs and off "the hard work" of defendants.
Aides for DeLay defended his role as a plaintiff in the family lawsuit, saying he did not follow the legal case and was not aware of its final outcome.
The case was resolved in 1993 with payment of an undisclosed sum, said to be about $250,000, according to sources familiar with the out-of-court settlement. DeLay signed over his share of any proceeds to his mother, said his aides.
Three years later, DeLay cosponsored a bill specifically designed to override state laws on product liability such as the one cited in his family's lawsuit. The legislation provided sweeping exemptions for product sellers.
The 1996 bill was vetoed by President Clinton, who said he objected to the DeLay-backed measure because it "tilts against American families and would deprive them of the ability to recover fully when they are injured by a defective product."
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After her husband's death, Maxine DeLay scrapped the mangled tram at the bottom of the hill and sold the family's lake house.
Today, she lives alone in a Houston senior citizen residence. Like much of the country, she is following news developments in the Schiavo case and her son's prominent role.
She acknowledged questions comparing her family's decision in 1988 to the Schiavo conflict with a slight smile. "It's certainly interesting, isn't it?"
She had a new hairdo for Easter and puffed on a cigarette outside her assisted-living residence as she sat back comparing the cases.
Like her son, she believed there might be hope for Terri Schiavo's recovery. That's what made her family's experience different, she said. Charles had no hope.
"There was no chance he was ever coming back," she said.
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Verhovek reported from Canyon Lake, Texas; Roche reported from Washington. Also contributing to this report were Times researchers Lianne Hart in San Antonio and Nona Yates in Los Angeles.
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 12:35amHey Alan, do you subscribe t...
Hey Alan, do you subscribe to the daily updates from www.votersunite.org. They are really good about the nuts and bolts of what is happening in the election reform world.
The sad truth is the most significant questions raised by Ohio went un-examined: ie, there's been tons of testimony on the obstacles to voting that the GOP instituted. But on the vote counting side, the evidence trail simply was censored by Blackwell issuing a gag order and sealing election day paper records. And no-one I know of - except employees of the voting machine companies, who in some cases did the recount and turned in the results to county officials - got to examine the central tabulating computers. Sigh...
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By Steve RosenfeldMarch 28, 2005 - 12:42amHistory Has A Way Of Haughti...
History Has A Way Of Haughting, Especially The Fools!!!!
Past Arguments Don't Square With Current Iran Policy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html?refer...
By Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 27, 2005; Page A15
Lacking direct evidence, Bush administration officials argue that Iran's nuclear program must be a cover for bomb-making. Vice President Cheney recently said, "They're already sitting on an awful lot of oil and gas. Nobody can figure why they need nuclear as well to generate energy."
Yet Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and outgoing Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz held key national security posts when the Ford administration made the opposite argument 30 years ago.
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 12:45amThe Howard Dean Doctrine Wa...
The Howard Dean Doctrine
War Opposition a Political Move
By JOSHUA FRANK
On April 9, 2003, Howard Dean all but endorsed George W. Bush's pre-emptive (preventive) doctrine. Though Dean didn't join in the hawks' celebration of Bush's "liberation of Iraq" that day, he stressed the necessity of pressuring Iran and North Korea, saying he would not rule out the use of military force to do so. As Glen Johnson of the Boston Globe quoted Dean as saying on April 10, 2003, "Under no circumstances can we permit North Korea to have a nuclear program ... Nor, under any circumstances, can we allow Iran to have nuclear weapons."
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As Dean initially articulated his muddled position on Iraq, Danny Sebright, one of the premier architects of Bush's Afghanistan conflict, played puppeteer behind the theatrical curtain. According to Sean Donahue, the Project Director of the Corporations and Militarism Project of the Massachusetts Anti-Corporate Clearinghouse, Sebright constructed and wrote Dean's early statements on war. At that time, Sebright worked under Donald Rumsfeld at the Pentagon as the Director of the Executive Secretariat for Enduring Freedom. As Donahue wrote in an October 30, 2003 article on CounterPunch:
http://www.counterpunch.org/frank03262005.html
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 12:50amPosted by srose14 on 03/27...
Posted by srose14 on 03/27 at 05:42 PM
I do indeed. Votersunite.org is a great non-partisan resource. They're doing a bangup job covering both the Republican vote supression and the Democrat ballot blocking. (Neither of which one would otherwise hear much about from the MSM.)
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 12:56amhello, world...
hello, world
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 12:57amTwo New 'bushFlash' Links...
Two New 'bushFlash' Links
Corporate 'News':
http://www.ericblumrich.com/news.html
Mothers Must:
http://www.rosie.com/2us.php
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 12:59amNation in a Persistent Torpi...
Nation in a Persistent Torpid State
Nation in a persistent torpid state
http://www.pressconnects.com/today/opinion/stories/op032705s156645.shtml
"And here, in silence, are seven more."
DAVID ROSSIE Commentary
That is how Jim Lehrer has ended many of his News Hour broadcasts during the last two years. The reference is to American military men and women killed in Iraq and Afghanistan; their names, faces, ranks, hometowns, and service branches are presented, one by one. There is no background music or commentary. Only the mournful numbers vary.
As the war enters its third year and casualties continue, the question will not go away: What will it take to end the silence, to rouse the public from its torpor?
Disclosures about systematic torture of Iraqi prisoners by American military and CIA interrogators at Abu Ghraib prison, along with physical and psychological abuses of detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba?
Silence.
Disclosure that Pentagon neocons ignored intelligence provided by reliable sources concerning Saddam Hussein's nuclear, biological and chemical weapons capabilities and relied instead on information provided by frauds such as Ahmad Chalabi to justify their rush to war?
Silence.
The Bush administration's refusal to give an honest accounting of the number of wounded coming out of Iraq to hospitals in the United States?
Silence.
Disclosures of overcharges in the millions of dollars by Kellogg Brown and Root, a Halliburton subsidiary operating with a sweetheart contract to provide services to our military in Iraq?
Silence.
Failure to provide sufficient body armor for soldiers and Marines fighting in Iraq. Failure to provide enough armored vehicles for those same troops?
Silence.
Disclosure that the Pentagon has failed to supply Army units with enough simple tourniquets to save the lives of men and women who sustain severe arm and leg wounds?
Silence.
Disclosure that the war in Iraq has cost American taxpayers more than $200 billion so far, after administration officials told Congress two years ago that "liberation" and stabilization of that country would cost the U.S. $1.7 billion tops, with Iraqi oil exports covering the remaining costs?
Silence.
Disclosure that National Guard soldiers, who now make up nearly half the Army's strength in Iraq (the highest ratio since World War II), some of whom are in their second tour of duty, may be called upon to do a third tour, despite the extreme hardship experienced by the families of those Guard units?
Silence.
Disclosure that suspected (but not proven) terrorists are being shipped, with the approval of White House and Pentagon officials, for interrogation to foreign countries that have no qualms about using torture to extract information?
Silence.
More than 1,500 American men and women killed -- 99 percent of them since Bush proclaimed an end to major combat during his victory strut aboard the Abraham Lincoln -- in a war that was begun under false pretenses, and continues with no end in sight?
Silence.
The silence of the sheep.
Rossie is associate editor of the Press & Sun-Bulletin. His column appears on Sunday, Wednesday and Friday. Write to him c/o P.O. Box 1270, Binghamton, N.Y. 13902-1270.
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'Bring Them Home,NOW!'
James Starowicz
USN '67-'71 GMG3 Vietnam '70-'71
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 1:03amI love that L.A. Times story...
I love that L.A. Times story on Tom DeLay and his family disconnecting their father. This is the kind of job we used to count on the media to do.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:03amI'd like to take a moment t...
I'd like to take a moment to "give the benefit of the doubt" to Lieberman's sanity.
...
Nope. Hasn't got any.
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 1:04amEvening everyone. Does ...
Evening everyone.
Does anyone else find that asthma ad annoying? Whenever I hear it, it sounds like someone's going to croak. And the spot always seems to be the first spot in a break.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:04amPosted by jimstaro on 03/2...
Posted by jimstaro on 03/27 at 08:03 PM
Great post there.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:06amMy daughter saw Spamalot Wed...
My daughter saw Spamalot Wednesday night. She loved it.
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:08amI love that L.A. Times story...
I love that L.A. Times story on Tom DeLay and his family disconnecting their father. This is the kind of job we used to count on the media to do.
Posted by ZoWie on 03/27 at 08:03 PM
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Not Only about His Dad But The Lawyers and Lawsuit They Filed As Well!
The Whole article Speaks Volumns About Delay
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 1:08amIt's even harder to go to w...
It's even harder to go to war against an emotion. I mean, maybe in 50 or 60 years when they have terror on the run they can start in on righteous indignation......
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:08amSince Tom Delay seems to be ...
Since Tom Delay seems to be in a persistent vegatative state, I think we should pull the plug on him. ;-P
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:13amwhen they have terror on the...
when they have terror on the run they can start in on righteous indignation......
Posted by ZoWie on 03/27 at 06:08 PM
Bwa! :lol:
I'm declaring a War on Ennui!
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 1:14amThat asthma ad is unbelievea...
That asthma ad is unbelieveably bad. Chris tried to talk some sense into the AAR ad dept. To no avail. We think 1000s of people change the channel as soon as it goes on.
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By Steve RosenfeldMarch 28, 2005 - 1:14amPosted by jimstaro on 03/27 ...
Posted by jimstaro on 03/27 at 08:03 PM
Great post there.
Posted by snonli on 03/27 at 08:06 PM
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I'm a NewsHour Regular For Years. and When they started the 'Silent Honor' I thought there would be Other Ways to Honor The Killed with All the 'Support The Troops' from MSM, Didn't Happen, and That's the Only Program that does it Almost Every Night, and I Mean Every Night, only a few haven't had the Names and Faces since it started!!!!!!!
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 1:15amThe last time a bunch of rel...
The last time a bunch of religious fundamentalists took over a government we invaded the country and chased them out. That was the Taliban. Now, who will come save us from the Talibush?
It's getting really scary here in Ohio now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/27/politics/27OHIO.html?oref=login
Sadly all the religious fundies, are down with Blackwell's ways.
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:17amHey ho, waddya know? Happ...
Hey ho, waddya know?
Happy Sunday evening peeps (Easter joke).
Lieberman, IMHO, is worse than a right-wing Republican because he's supposed to be something so much better than what he is. Why the heck does he want to continue the Schiavo noise when 80% of Americans don't think he and his pals in Congress should even be involved in the discussion? I hope someone in Connecticut beats him soundly in the next election.
As for Tom DeLay...it figures. :grrr:
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:18amW goes by the voices in his ...
W goes by the voices in his head. (God told me to).
Isn't that usually what someone will say when he explains why he murdered his whole family?
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:19ampetemoon dribbles for the NC...
petemoon dribbles for the NCAA. I never got into college hoops, but it's gotta be better than my Boston Celtics these days.
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:20amsnonli, GW is a text-book...
snonli,
GW is a text-book mass murderer or serial killer, and guess what--as a politician he's gotten to do it without getting his hands dirty. :cheese:
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:21amPete, I didn't think you li...
Pete, I didn't think you liked sports. Didn't you used to vent when Sirius pre-empted AAR to air football games.
Hey, we got the NY Knicks and they're even sadder.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:22amRats, I forgot to hide my eg...
Rats, I forgot to hide my eggs... :bug:
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:23amI run for the button every t...
I run for the button every time that wheezy asthma ad comes on. Another sure channel changer is the obnoxious little kids screaming for more Ovaltine.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:23amAaaaaahhhhhh! Laura at last...
Aaaaaahhhhhh! Laura at last, a sight for sore minds. Helps me get the pundity out of me system.
P.S. Thanks for the intel AlanSmithee04, Jimstaro, et. al.
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By nicethugbertMarch 28, 2005 - 1:24amperfectly understandable pet...
perfectly understandable petemoon--my guy watches BC games. I actually like pro sports more than many fine politically active women. I used to be a football widow, then I became a fan. Oh well, now that the Red Sox won and the Patriots won again, it's likely to be a crummy year for them, and anti-climactic for the fans.
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:25amWell since W displays no bra...
Well since W displays no brain activity, maybe there is an even better reason to pull the plug on him? ;-P
Better yet, let's have Delay and W on a two-for-one special. %-P
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:28amHuh, I have no eggs to hide....
Huh, I have no eggs to hide...but it's OK, I'm Jewish. :P
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:28amWhile we're at it, we've g...
While we're at it, we've got to find a way to unplug Cheney, Hastert, Frist...yikes, there's too many of them!
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:30amsnarlah Don't loose faith ...
snarlah Don't loose faith in the Sox, but you're gonna be right about Patriots, me thinks they'll have that Off Year!!
Jim
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 1:33amExcuse me, I can't seem to ...
Excuse me, I can't seem to find my nuts. :coolcheese:
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:33amIf you want some background ...
If you want some background on Blackwell's religious backers:
http://www.cr-johnson.com/pewpolitics.txt
..beats an asthma commerical anyday. I'm not a religious buy but I pray they put him up for governor. Bring 'em on! >:-(
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:34ami think i'm in a temporary ...
i think i'm in a temporary vegatative stae .. i wonder what we'll find out what really happened last week that the repubs were so hell bent on making everybody look at florida instead .. hmmm
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By doon452pa (not verified)March 28, 2005 - 1:34amI'm surprised they still ar...
I'm surprised they still are running Unfiltered promos.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:35amFor maybe the first time in ...
For maybe the first time in my life . . . I’m speechless!!!
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Posted by petemoon on 03/27 at 08:26 PM
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My calendar has been marked! :)
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:35amHas anyone else seen ENRON: ...
Has anyone else seen ENRON: The Smartest Guys in the Room? It's a documentary about the downfall of Enron and all the bullshit they pulled over the years. I live on the west coast (not CA), so I'm riled up all over again. >:-(
Everyone in CA, OR and WA is still paying high electric rates because of those bastards. Not as high as they were a few years ago, but they've never gone back down to pre-Enron rates.
If Martha Stewart got 5 months for her crime, these guys had better get 30 years or more.
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By KilnfiredMarch 28, 2005 - 1:36am:red:...
:red:
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:38amIf you want some background ...
If you want some background on BlackwellÂ’s religious backers:
http://www.cr-johnson.com/pewpolitics.txt
..beats an asthma commerical anyday. I’m not a religious buy but I pray they put him up for governor. Bring ‘em on! angry
Posted by MaggiesBoy on 03/27 at 08:34 PM
I guess that's why it's important for him to rig the voting machines so that the giggling murderer could win. I can guarantee you he will try and do it again in '06.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:40amWent back to Ohio... My city...
Went back to Ohio... My city was gone...
(And that's even Rush's theme. You can't make up stuff this good. If irony generated electricity we wouldn't need oil.)
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:41amAwright Maggiesboy!...
Awright Maggiesboy!
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 1:41amOK, I found another aspect t...
OK, I found another aspect to this Schiavo thingy the creeps got goin on. This years election theme will be Authority. And, if it goes over well then, for all time.
I subjected myself to "meet the press" for some eternity today. Saint Joe and a round table of religous folk (some good, some evil) were the tim's guests today. A table full of titles. Titles are Brands. These were authoratative brands, "quality" brands.
No numbers were heard until The Evil Father Dirnan committed the triple compound sin of reciting statistics about increasing poverty and that whole Jesus dug poor folk stuff.
Numbers are argumentative, evil, anti-jesus, non-miraculas, anti-authority, non-brandable, unqualitative.
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By nicethugbertMarch 28, 2005 - 1:41amJoe is at it again on meet t...
Joe is at it again on meet the press
Time to go JOE
NBC News MEET THE PRESS
Sunday, March 20, 2005
These are very difficult decisions, but--of course, if you ask me what I would do if I was the Florida Legislature or any state legislature, I'd say that if somebody doesn't have a living will and the next of kin disagree on whether the person should be kept alive or that is whether food and water should be taken away and her life ended that really the benefit of the doubt ought to be given to life. And the family member who wants to sustain her life ought to have that right because the judge really doesn't know, though he heard the facts, one judge, what Terri Schiavo wanted. He made a best guess based on the evidence before him. That's not enough when you're talking about aggressively removing food and water to end someone's life.
MR. RUSSERT: You would have kept the tube in?
SEN. LIEBERMAN: I would have kept the tube in.
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By vortexMarch 28, 2005 - 1:42amBlecchwell! What a poisonou...
Blecchwell! What a poisonous, lying, jerk.
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:43amwait til you guys hear the s...
wait til you guys hear the stephanie tubbs-jones tape!
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By Steve RosenfeldMarch 28, 2005 - 1:44amGod just listening to Blackw...
God just listening to Blackwell's voice you can tell what an arrogant prick he is. Add him to the list of people who's plug should be pulled.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:44amOops, I meant "whose plug"...
Oops, I meant "whose plug" God how can I forget grammar.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:45am"Ohio is a mdel for best el...
"Ohio is a mdel for best election practices."
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The bigger the lie, the more apt it is to be believed.
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Posted by petemoon on 03/27 at 08:43 PM
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Repeat it Over and Over and the Sheeple will say it's written in the Bible!!!!
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By jimstaroMarch 28, 2005 - 1:46amI'm much more into unpluggi...
I'm much more into unplugging CNN and Fox.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:47amKen Blackwell, George Bush i...
Ken Blackwell, George Bush is coming
Election must be controlled
Must keep them dems from voting
Rig votes in O-hi-o
Rig votes in O-hi-o
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By maggiesboyMarch 28, 2005 - 1:48amYay Steve!...
Yay Steve!
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:49amIÂ’m much more into unpluggi...
IÂ’m much more into unplugging CNN and Fox.
Posted by ZoWie on 03/27 at 08:47 PM
I've done that. I don't watch any of the US cable news channels anymore. I watch CBC, BBC, or EuroNews.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:49amI used to think I was naught...
I used to think I was naughty because I wouldn't watch the mainstream news for months on end. Now I feel damn good about it. Whoa, I was just hearing Neil Young's song in my mind 2 minutes before it started to play. Insert Twilight Zone music here.
Ohio had better rid itself of Blackwell right quick, if that's possible anymore.
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By snarlahMarch 28, 2005 - 1:51amGod, can we put Blackwell in...
God, can we put Blackwell in a ring with that wrestler who co-hosted Morning Sedition? He needs a smackdown. He actually sounds more arrogant than Bush if that's possible.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:53amBlackwell: I'm election co...
Blackwell: I'm election commisioner. You will all kneel before me.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:55amLocal public access....
Local public access.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:55amSave this stuff. This will ...
Save this stuff. This will be great to air in campaign ads to let people know what a dick he is.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 1:56amYay Chris!...
Yay Chris!
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 1:57amGotta cut out early tonight,...
Gotta cut out early tonight, bloggers. Loved hearing Tubbs-Jones rip into Blechwell!
One more plug for the Nashville Conference:
Gathering To Save Our Democracy
National Conference on the 2004 Election
and the Need for Election Reform
Nashville, Tennessee, April 8-10, 2005
check out the particulars @ http://www.freepress.org/conf.php
Tons of speakers from the Ohio recount will be there including David Cobb (who even made it on to AAR once, back when third parties were momentarily useful to the Dems.)
And a parting Smithee fact:
If you put a DVD of "Pearl Harbor" next to a DVD of "Monster's Ball", the resulting talent/anti-talent explosion could level a small town!
But don't try it at home...
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By AlanSmithee04March 28, 2005 - 1:59ami've been looking online, b...
i've been looking online, but didn't see a transcript a few days ago... i'll look again now...
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By Steve RosenfeldMarch 28, 2005 - 1:59amno c-span cameras there... o...
no c-span cameras there... only public access
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By Steve RosenfeldMarch 28, 2005 - 2:01amAnd a parting Smithee fact:...
And a parting Smithee fact:
If you put a DVD of “Pearl Harbor” next to a DVD of “Monster’s Ball”, the resulting talent/anti-talent explosion could level a small town!
But donÂ’t try it at homeÂ…
Posted by AlanSmithee04 on 03/27 at 08:59 PM
There's a scary thought. See you around.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 2:01amLast week I was saying the L...
Last week I was saying the Laura Flanders Show reminded me of the best stuff on Pacifica Radio. This week I was Googling around and found one of the classic articles about the Pacifica legal struggle that everyone quotes... written by a WBAI news reporter named... Laura Flanders!!!!! :-)
And so I just Googled that and got a speech by the current Pacifica executive director back when he was on the outs and fighting with the national board:
"I don't know KPFA that well but some of the finest work and the finest journalists in this network are produced at the local community level - journalists like Laura Flanders, who came out of WBAI..."
http://www.radio4all.org/2000/coughlin_speech-trans.html
No wonder this show reminds me of Pacifica at its best - it is!!!
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 2:05amThe reason that the military...
The reason that the military will not let anyone look at the car could be because they haven't finished the body work they need to be sure that the real holes have been plugged up and new ones put into the vehicle so it looks like the bullets passed through the engine block around the driver, over into the back seat and into the place where the injured and killed victims would have been seated.
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By Reynaud (not verified)March 28, 2005 - 2:06amLaura used to co-host the Un...
Laura used to co-host the Undercurrents/Contragate show on WBAI back around 1989, 1990. She worked with Robert Knight and Dennis Bernstein who both still do solid reporting on Pacifica Radio although Robert Knight is not in favor with current WBAI managment.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 2:09amI see that George Bush celeb...
I see that George Bush celebrated the execution of the jewish preacher as a criminal.
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By Reynaud (not verified)March 28, 2005 - 2:10amAlways look on the bright si...
Always look on the bright side of life.
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By snonliMarch 28, 2005 - 2:10amIf we didn't have this war ...
If we didn't have this war or any of the other wars most of the republicans would be without a way to make money.
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By Reynaud (not verified)March 28, 2005 - 2:11amYeah, I think Knight got can...
Yeah, I think Knight got canned by the current PD. Thank [insert your appropriate diety here] for AAR and sanity.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 2:12amI'm holding out for The War...
I'm holding out for The War On Righteous Indignation.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 2:14amEnnui is when everyone gets ...
Ennui is when everyone gets bored fighting emotions and never catching any. We'll have a war on that.
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By ZoWieMarch 28, 2005 - 2:20am