TODAY'S SHOW: THURSDAY AUGUST 23RD 2007
Rachel will be talking to Jim Ward, a California piercing enthusiast who claims to have pierced Karl Rove's dad, and not in the ears...
But first, Rachel is joined by Christina Davidson from Iraq Slogger who broke the story today about an American lobbying firm's efforts to get rid of Maliki and bring back Ayad Allawi. You can see the contract here.
MENTIONED ON TODAY'S SHOW
The Orioles break another baseball record
If you're an 18-year old in Austria you have 2 choices: join the army or get an internship at an American Holocaust rememberance museum
Our Director of National Intelligence warns that because he had to talk to reporters, Americans will die.
Bush went to Kansas City yesterday, delivered his latest bit of bullpucky on the Iraq war, and then had locals' cars towed for good measure
The new National Intelligence Estimate has been leaked
BUSH Versus BUSH...................
In April 2004 Bush was asked by a member of the press if it was appropriate to compare Vietnam with the war in Iraq. Here's what happened then:
Q Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, April [2004] is turning into the deadliest month in Iraq since the fall of Baghdad, and some people are comparing Iraq to Vietnam and talking about a quagmire. Polls show that support for your policy is declining and that fewer than half Americans now support it. What does that say to you and how do you answer the Vietnam comparison?
THE PRESIDENT: I think the analogy is false. I also happen to think that analogy sends the wrong message to our troops, and sends the wrong message to the enemy.
Fast Forward to 2007.
KANSAS CITY, Mo., Aug. 22 — President Bush delivered a rousing defense of his Iraq policy on Wednesday, telling a group of veterans that “a free Iraq” is within reach and warning that if Americans succumb to “the allure of retreat,” they will witness death and suffering of the sort not seen since the Vietnam War.
“It’s not up to the politicians in Washington, D.C., to say whether he will remain in his position,” President Bush said of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq.
“Then as now, people argued that the real problem was America’s presence and that if we would just withdraw, the killing would end,” Mr. Bush declared in a 45-minute speech before a Veterans of Foreign Wars convention here. He added, “The world would learn just how costly these misimpressions would be.”
In urging Americans to stay the course in Iraq, Mr. Bush is challenging the historical memory that the pullout from Vietnam had few negative repercussions for the United States and its allies.
“Whatever your position is on that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America’s withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens, whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like ‘boat people,’ ‘re-education camps’ and ‘killing fields.’ ”
Pol Pot and the Khamer Rouge took place during the last year the U.S. was still engaged in combat. The U.S. military left in 1972 and it took another 3 years before the war ended.
Bush apparently forgot what he read in 2003 and a speech writer also forgot what he wrote then.
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Was the Putin Porn really necessary??? BLOODY POOP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Putin Wanker!!!
BTW:
What happened with the Star Wars BS .. Chezk earth stations to address Iran's short range conventional weapons.
Alawi Deja Vu was mentioned on Moyers PBS journal. Under Viceroy Bremmer Alawi was accused of personally executing alleged bad guys.
ITS ALL PART OF THE LEAD UP TO ATTACK IRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you play Backgammon or Chess? They are boobytrapping the field and firing a gatteling gun on a turret; VETO EVERYTHING, deny access to anything via subpoena, LAUGH as the SPINELESS DEMS that wont IMPEACH GONZO or CHENEY, gulf of Tonkin 2 at Hormuz for a ROYAL FLUSH!!!
The Roger Stone PRANK PHONE CALL .. What a RIOT!!!
The Caller-ID screw up was #1 a Stone family member's number was what came up on Gramps Spitzer's display. Stone obviously was under the impression that he had hit *67 or was on a pre blocked line. Then again Tommy Hilfiger's caller ID was swapped by a HACKER at AT&T so don't jump to conclusions. #2 the excuse I heard for the voice match was based on technology, not editing clips from public appearances. (In fact there is voice technology that will overlay the harmonics over a known source sample for inflection. The recording from 9/11 flight 93 where the odd question "YOU BELIEVE IT'S YOUR SON, DON'T YOU MOM" has been duplicated to disprove the official MYTH that passengers overtook the "HIJACKERS" [ see http://www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=954 ] , so in fact Stone could have been set up after all. In fact he could have set up himself so he would be eligible for his EVILDOER PENSION.)
While you were on Spitzer and NYC, were you planning to mention the Polish WTC Deuch Bank RIP-OFF $197M to disassemble the building Bloomberg bought for $90M??? How about Silverstein's double insurance payout on WTC, or the perfect collapse of WTC-7 where hundreds of HOT white collar SEC evidence files were lost forever, kinda like Rove's MILLION EMAILS???
Interesting
That's a very bold claim to make. And a very bold picture to see
Black smith? and piecings
A Smith makes nails, a Ferrier makes shoes.
Also I gotta know, was it a "prince albert", a "Frenum", or a (Shudder!) "Dydoe"?
Please Ask! Please
Roves Dad Pic???
http://www.wherescherie.com/uploads/00006481.jpg
http://www.wherescherie.com/thumbs/00006481.jpg
there is some subtext to that photo
because Eastern European Breeders do tend to like their men, er, manly.
yup.
President Codpiece & His Magic Royal Entourage from Montebello, PQ, are looking a little flaccid right now...
just say'n
On the other hand, I'm not saying it like its a Good Thing.
but for the Rovian piercing on the ex-Nazi... oh yeah, I might have to get the podcast... that's just beeeeuuuuutiful...
:shut: disturbing as hell...
but beeeeeeeeeeeutiful, ain't it? Its like a gift...
of course with all this talk, all the self-denying Bushevik lurkers will be off castigating themselves...
"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"
Namaste,
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Two Prince Albert stories?
Wow, two Prince Albert stories in the same hour on Rachel Maddow: one about the monarch of Monaco, the other about Carl Rove's father.
No, Cy, darling, it was one Prince Albert story...
...the other one about the Queen...
No, I mean two
See Jeffinator1's comment above.
Poverty
This country and this war are in desperate need of radical changes. First and foremost is the need to pull our troops out of Iraq and stop the violence, poverty and terror that we are creating overseas as well as in our homes. Even now, President Bush would not admit defeat and the fact that this war is a disaster. The Bush administration has yet to recognize the Iraq war is a complete failure and mistake. There are more critical issues that affecting the lives of millions of americans and people world wide that our president is not taking actions against. Now the war has proven to be a failure and is causing more violence, terror and poverty in this world. According to the Borgen Project, it only takes $19 billion dollars annually to eradicate world hunger and poverty. However, our government has already spent more than $450 billion dollars over this fruitless war in Iraq. It is time for the Bush Administration to take a real interest in the lives of the American people as well as people who are in desperate needs around the world. Stop the lies and stop poverty now. Put away the arrogance and put the needs of the people before political gains.
You keep posting this
I think it's overly optimistic in the extreme to think that a mere $19 billion/yr can end world poverty, particularly when global population continues to increase and the predicted downward energy spiral will make the so-called "Green Revolution" a thing of the past.
"We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anyone tell you different."--Kurt Vonnegut
"I am not an Athenian or a Greek, but a citizen of the world."--Socrates
Dulce bellum inexpertis
Proposal would ban baggy pants
By DAVID PENDERED
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 08/22/07
Exposed boxer shorts and thongs would be illegal in any public place in Atlanta if the City Council approves a proposed amendment to the city's indecency laws. The target is young men who wear their pants low off their hips to show off the two pairs of boxers they wear beneath their saggy pants, said Atlanta Councilman C.T. Martin, a college recruitment consultant who sponsored the ordinance. Saggy pants are an "epidemic" that are becoming a "major concern" in cities and states around the country, the ordinance reads. "Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the in thing," Martin said Wednesday.
"I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future." Under the proposed ordinance, women also couldn't reveal the strap of a thong beneath their pants. Nor could they wear jogging bras in public or show off even a wisp of a bra strap, said Debbie Seagraves, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. The proposed ordinance states that "the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments" would be unlawful in a public place. It would go in the same portion of the city code that outlaws sex in public and the exposure or fondling of genitals and the breast of a woman.
Martin said the penalty would be a fine in an amount to be determined. Seagraves said any legislation that creates a dress code would not survive a court challenge. She said there's no way the law could be enforced in a nondiscriminatory way. She said it targets a cultural phenomenon that came out of the black youth culture. "This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling," Seagraves said. Several cities have considered banning saggy pants but only one is known to have adopted a measure, Seagraves said.
Delcambre, La., is the only city she knows of that passed such an ordinance. It carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public, according to a description of it in Martin's proposed ordinance. Makeda Johnson, an Atlanta mother of a 14-year-old daughter, said she's glad Martin introduced the proposal. She doesn't want to see a law against attire, but said she thinks teens are sending a message with a way of dressing that's based in jailhouse behavior.
Johnson said she understands the phenomenon of saggy pants started when prisoners' belts were taken off and the prisoners' pants drooped down. Once teens who'd been arrested were back on the street, they wore saggy pants to show the loss of a belt does not mean a loss of personal power.
Other teens followed suit to show support, she said. "Do I want them arrested for that? No. Do I want them harassed? No," she said. "But I salute [Martin] for having the courage to say we need to do something. Finally we've gone beyond saying, 'Pull up your pants,' to saying we need to bring a focus on the message our young people are sending." Martin, who is African-American, said he intends to convene public hearings and vet the proposal through churches, civil rights groups and neighborhood organizations. The proposal will get its first public airing Aug. 28 in the City Council's Public Safety Committee.
"The purpose of the paper is to generate some conversation to see if we can find a solution," Martin said. "It will be like all the discussions we've had around the value of the hip-hop culture. We know there are First Amendment issues ... and some will say I'm just trying to put young black men in jail, but it's going to be fines." Saramaat Johnson, the daughter of Makeda Johnson, said she thinks the whole question of exposing underwear as a fashion statement is a matter of taste.
Sometimes it's good; sometimes it's not. "It's something that can be done nicely, but other people can take it to the extreme and get ridiculous with it. And a lot of people are doing it."
Find this article at: http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2007/08/22/saggy_0823.html
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It won't last.
As much as I think the fashion makes people look incredibly stupid, making a law against it in the public arena is going too far. The thing that cracks me up is how those who choose to dress like that then walk around wondering why they can't get a job when they dress that way for an interview, or respect from the public at large. Maybe if the guys could take their hands off their junk for more then 3 seconds and remember it won't fall off if not being held, and what their Moms taught them about appearance. But as long as they can keep their bare butts covered I could care less, its when I see more crack then a working plumber that I just roll my eyes thinking, "I didn't need to see that." But a law? Pu-leaze, that is ridiculous! Anyway, someone tries to do this every year it seems somewhere and it never remains in effect for long.
Ocn, every job has a "costume"...
...You walk around with studs or bones in the nose, ears, whatever, then that is fine, do your own thing. Most jobs have a "costume" and if you have a mortgage or rent, bills to pay, you do what you have to do to take care of your household, which means, "costume" it is, if you are being responsible..,.Most of us live for weekends when we can cast off all of that and "be ourselves." Your own time is your own time, indeed...Dress codes are what they are and unless you are in business for yourself, you have to adhere to the rules and regulations of the people who hire you and who have the authority to fire you...
It all goes back to "Mama," and what you learned from family. Do what you have to do to make a living, take care of your family and after hours, do your own thing. But as long as someone other than yourself is setting the rules, take care of your family, and the deal is, then rules it is...If I had my way, I would go to work in a t-shirt, sweat pants and sneakers...God bless those who can go to work like they are going to the beach...But the rest of us have to do what we have to do for the sake of our families and responsibilities...
Which is why weekends are so special, indeed...
President Putin, here's the deal...
...about that bare chested thing you presented to the world, just one thing, IF I DO NOT ASK TO SEE IT, DO NOT SHOW IT TO ME...
All I'm saying....