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The U.N. inspectors investigating Iran’s nuclear program sent an angry letter yesterday to the White House and to GOP congressman Peter Hoekstra, in which they charged that a recent House intelligence committee report on Iran’s capabilities contained “outrageous and dishonest” assertions. The letter noted five major errors in the House report, which had sought to portray Iran’s program as being further along than had been estimated.
Far be it from this Administration & it's Rubber-Stamp Congress
To fudge a report ... shocking!
I wonder if Chimpy & Co. will ever realize that you cannot make shit up to suit your political agenda. Amazing.
Smells like Iraq all over again.
ah, but you forget
He can and has done it for 6 years with impunity.
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
Very true GM -
It just amazes me that for a country full of people who pride themselves on being reasonable and common sense driven, we would allow this crap to continue for as long as it has. It further amazes me that seeing this GOP Congress basically do nothing for six years, that people would still consider voting for them.
One can only hope that once this gets out in the news, that people will FINALLY wake up and smell the coffee and realize what a bunch of hacks these people really are.
Well, you see
that is where limbaugh, hannity, fox news, abc, headline news, and the neocon country music industry comes in.
UN inspectors
And we are to believe UN Inspectors first and foremost?
yes
yes
Well ok...
than. Get your it takes a village idiot hat out.
Lies and bullshit won't work
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
Deeter -
That's the UN's JOB. Who else's word are we supposed to take, Chimpys? Yeah, and he's done such a fine job of being honest these six years.
Sure
You rather trust an organization with so much fraud and backdoor deals (oil for food, being one). Look at how Kofi Annan, he can't even clean up his own backyard. His home country is being over ran by Islam extremist and you hear nothing about that in the news. Where is the outrage. Talk about criminal. One must take a real long look in the mirror.
The UN weapons inspectors
said there were no WMDs in Iraq. They were right. Bush said there were. He lied. Is that simple enough for you? stupid neocon
They also said that they
They also said that they werent allowed to inspect every site that they wanted to look at.
5. Resorting to namecalling when you dont have the ability to make an actual point.
9. Inventing your own definitions of words. (lie = misinformed)
We're up to 9 cheap tactics now! congrats hufflarry, you are a true artist.
Then
where are WMDs?
bush recieved bad
bush recieved bad information, the wmd's were there, just not in the quantities that most of our government believed there would be. Acting on bad information doesnt make someone a liar, it makes them misinformed, and if you cant see the difference in that by now then you never will.
again where are WMDs?
Bush lied and normal people know it. nice try.
do you know what the word
do you know what the word "lie" means? It means to intentionally decieve, can you prove intent?
Main Entry: 3lie
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): lied; ly·ing /'lI-i[ng]/
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English lEogan; akin to Old High German liogan to lie, Old Church Slavic lugati
intransitive verb
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression
You are a funny little freak. Criminal Intent.
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
again where are WMDs?
Bush and Rummy said they knew where they were. The inspectors said there were none. Where are they?
and they were wrong, that
and they were wrong, that doesnt make them liars. If you count change wrong, does that make you a liar? If you set your alarm clock to pm instead of am, does that make you a liar? Nope, they were mistaken, plain and simple.
They said they KNEW
for a fact that Saddam had WMDs! Not they THOUGHT they knew. They had Colin Powell on TV showing mobile weapons factories and metal tubes. They said this proved it. They lied and normal people know it.
If you put 3 dimes in your
If you put 3 dimes in your pocket and you said, "I know for a fact i have 3 dimes.", not realizing there was a hole in your pocket, would that make you a liar? Please, know the definitions of the words that you use, if you cant prove intent you cant prove a lie, plain and simple.
Courts prove lies every day. Wait for the trial, Nazi.
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
when proven wrong resort to cheap tactics
5. Resorting to namecalling when you dont have the ability to make an actual point.
6. Make accusations without having anything to back up those accusations. Putting words into other people's mouths.
You make it far too easy for me to prove my point.
WTF???
The President of the United States acted on "bad information", and that's okay with you?!? The "Leader of the Free World" is "misinformed" -- with dire consequences, and you don't think he and his cronies should be fired for that? This isn't a dress rehearsal!! This "bad information" has cost our country dearly. How can you place your confidence in a man who acts on "bad information"? Instead of accepting that pitiful excuse for an explanation, shouldn't we be putting our resources into improving our intelligence gathering capabilities, instead of dumping them down the drain in Iraq?
Let Freedom Ring!
Most of the world believed
Most of the world believed that saddam was a real threat, even saddams own generals believed that the wmd's were there. I would rather have a president that does act on bad information than one that doesnt act on good information.
Let me get this straight...
So you'd rather be wrong than right? That make you feel safer? That make you feel more confident? Would you lay down your life based on "bad information", or would you prefer that the reasoning was "iron clad" before making a possibly irreversible decision? Really-- would it be okay with you if your son was killed, and you were told "Sorry, we were misinformed"? I hope not. I have a son. He's too young now (thank Gawd), but that explanation would most certainly NOT be okay with me.
Let Freedom Ring!
Akosua - Chimpy has managed
to entirely fuck-up the intelligence community beyond the fuck-up point they were already at.
Bad information is his way of saying, "we manipulated the intel badly."
I'd rather have a leader who has all the CORRECT FACTS in front of him PRIOR to acting, then one how pushes a lousy agenda forward on INCORRECT FACTS.
were we suppose to wait for
were we suppose to wait for an attack? When does it reach the point that we do something, saddam already ignored dozens of u.n. resolutions, when is enough enough??
You mean the attack that wasn't coming?
Because there were no WMD's? Because Hans Blix stated, repeatedly, that there were no WMD's?
Put some thought into this ... who was the bigger danger on September 12th? Bin Laden and Al Qaeda who DID attack the day before or Saddam who was a "alleged threat"?
jfrogg
you really are an idiot
Yes, in this case..
since there obviously would not have been one. Saddam didn't have the means and Bush knew it. Why else was he unwilling to wait for the UN inspectors to finish their job? Because that would ruin his opportunity to use the threat of WMD's as a scare tactic on gullible folks like you, jfrogg.
Most of the world...
"Most of the world believed that saddam was a real threat, " jfrogg
BULLSHIT
"Acting on bad information
"Acting on bad information doesnt make someone a liar" jfrogg
Evidently, the Senate had the same info., which states that Iraq had NO WMD's...
That's what the Senate Intelligence Committee has reported...
But Cheney "hasn't read that report" even though he is the PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE......
Incompetence at best....liars at worst...
We present it.....you decide.....
JPN - I am SO glad you said ...
You rather trust an organization with so much fraud and backdoor deals (oil for food, being one). Look at how Kofi Annan, he can't even clean up his own backyard.
The same logic could be applied to Chimpy & Co. - backdoor deals? Halliburton: no bid contracts; charging $100 delivery charge per lunch for the troops; charging astronomical amounts for gas deliveries to the troops; and I can go on and on. What about Darth's "secret" energy policy meeting? You know, the meeting he REFUSES to divulge details about (and being U.S. energy policy, don't you think we have a right to know what was discussed??) Remember that energy policy that was written by the oil industry?
I'd worry MORE about Chimpy cleaning up HIS OWN BACKYARD - KATRINA ANYONE - instead of worrying about what Annan is or isn't doing.
And, it's not like it's Annan going out and doing these inspections himself - they have TRAINED individuals for this ... Hans Blix ring a bell?
The major stockholder of haliburton is and has always
been a major democrat family. And they have always been the one's who call the shots for haliburton.
you filthy liar!
Do you think we are stupid?
Its a publicly traded stock
you can look up the names of the major shareholders, etc any time your little mind cares to. I'll give you a hint. Does Lady bird_______ sound familiar. And just because you libs are quite happy burying your heads in the sand to hide from the truth doesn't make someone a liar. Actually, you libs obviously don't really know the difinition of liar is, the way you use the term so haphazardly.
Hatey...tell me you are claiming Johnson was a liberal?
Time is the enemy of truth...JFK Jr.
Am I become your enemy because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16
yes he was
Remember the civil rights act and the voting rights act. The war on poverty. all johnson doing, for good or ill
YES!! BLAME THE OLD WOMAN!!
Nah, it has NOTHING to do with the fact that Darth Cheney has Halliburton firmly up his ass ... nah, he didn't run the company and he certainly didn't do business with Iran while CEO of Halliburton.
Nah, blame the old lady.
What seems to be flying over your head since it's stuck in the sand, is that the SHAREHOLDERS don't make the day to day operational decisions and have absolutely NOTHING to do with no-bid contracts handed to Halliburton on a silver platter by Darth.
Wrong, and you don't win the prize.
but they sure do the hiring and the firing of the
ceo's if there not complient with what the major shareholders require of them
WHY WOULD THEY FIRE THE CEO
IF HE'S GETTING ALL THIS GOVERNMENTAL BUSINESS AND MAKING MONEY FOR THEM???? DO YOU THINK STOCKHOLDERS GIVE A SHIT WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM AS LONG AS IT MAKES IT IN THEIR POCKETS????
Come ON! You can't be THAT stupid!
it just seems that you guys keep
linking cheney with haliburton, when historically its been the Johnson's, a democractic icon, who has shape the nature of this particular beast.
hatenomore
you really are an idiot
Who's the new Nazi? Frogg die already?
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
HatenoMore, try to BullshitnoMore
Yup, hatenomor
"it just seems that you guys keep
linking cheney with haliburton" hatenomor
Ummm....HE WAS RUNNING HALLIBURTON PRIOR TO WORKING FOR BUSH.
Is that a "link"????
Seems like you should ask Dick, since he's the one that knows so much about "links".
Yup, hatenomor
"it just seems that you guys keep
linking cheney with haliburton" hatenomor
Ummm....HE WAS RUNNING HALLIBURTON PRIOR TO WORKING FOR BUSH.
Is that a "link"????
Seems like you should ask Dick, since he's the one that knows so much about "links".
Pookie, wake up....
Katrina only affected a bunch of black folks...
who have never voted for Bush.
Guess they don't really count as Amricans.
"We put the facts out, you decide"
Faux News......
They sit by while a great American city rots.
I call it "Compassionate Conservatism".
In other words, be "compassionate" about "Conserving" our wealth, and fuck everyone else.
Fraud and backdoor deals? Like Bush?
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
I was waiting for one of these
3. Kinda Like When monkey. Trying to quickly change the subject with a simple "kinda like when bush did this and that."
Froggy - you are getting
REALLY annoying with that. Again, I was using a comparison. Stop trying to muddy the issue with that STUPID fucking list that seems to ONLY APPLY TO THE LEFT. Unfair, unbalanced and HIGHLY inaccurate.
heavily armed and pookie are
heavily armed and pookie are one in the same?
Ah, no Froggy ...
Pookie is Pookie and that's all there is.
Fraud and backdoor deals?
Fraud and backdoor deals? Like Bush?
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
Submitted by heavily armed l... on September 14, 2006 - 3:58pm. | reply | email this comment
This was the post i was talking about using the cheap tactic.
Frogg don't know Pookie....typical.
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
Although, ...
it's ABUNDANTLY obvious that what applies to the goose does NOT apply to the gander. And I find that very hypocritical.
Please find and quote me
Please find and quote me using these tactics if you can. You are frustrated because you know I'm right.
Ah, Froggy - Another no.
I didn't single you out specifically, did I? No. But you apply your "list" to just the Dem bloggers when the GOP bloggers are just as guilty. Read through some of these things, see the kinds of responses WE when we are correct. Same tactics Mr. Man, same tactics.
And, I'm not frustrated ... it's just annoying ... like a gnat that buzzes around and you keep swatting and it just won't go away. I have more important issues to get frustrated about.
Perhaps you can send your GOP friends your list when they avoid the facts, avoid the issues.
Just as guilty? you cant be
Just as guilty? you cant be serious, i could find 100 lib name callings for every 1 repub name calling and you know it. Wanna play, pick any string and see for yourself.
Please Froggy -
I've got more important things to do. And, all the name calling from the Dems is usually from one person ... not everyone so you are making an incorrect generalization. All I ask is that if you're going to play the "cheap tactics" drumbeat, you need to also be beating that drum for the GOP bloggers here.
"i could find 100 lib name
"i could find 100 lib name callings for every 1 repub name calling and you know it." jfrogg
When you've got O'reilly, Coulter and Rush on your side, you don't need to namecall. They've mastered it for you.
Correction frogg..backdoor like Jeff Gannon..EEEW..
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
Your president is a bisexual cokehead and everyone around him knows it.
Ship going down Nazi..grab a lifevest, or drown.
Somebody wrap Frogg in duct tape
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
So he doesn't explode while George W fucks his ass.
Proof
I'm someone, and this is something I'm not aware of. Everyone? And remember, just because someone may or may not have done something thirty years ago, does not address who that person is today. the last true liberal died with Tip O'neill. All thats left now are a bunch of no nothing whiners who hate themselves for being born american
Who is this new Nazi? Repeats the same bullshit.
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
Hey Heavily.....
I think this new Nazi is W's mom trying to finally show some support for the child she ignored all these years. Did you hear her on television? She stood up and said that she just didn't know how George W was going to get anything accomplished without a congress that won't support him. What a damn joke. When he was in that second grade class, reading with them, he sat there for seven minuets before he did anything. Truth be told, the class was reading "The Little Train That Thought He Could" and he was pissed because he wanted to stay and finish the story.
eyes wide open
if you mean ignored by passing off W to the nanny then yes.
You got it
From what I understand, all she did was drink and play golf at the country club. I heard about a family mommet with mom...Seems ole GW gave a speech--went to mom to ask what she thougt of it. Since the "Little Train That Thought He Could" didn't get the responce form his mommy that he wanted--he got pissed and drove his car through the garage.
"And remember, just because
"And remember, just because someone may or may not have done something thirty years ago, does not address who that person is today. the last true liberal died with Tip O'neill. All thats left now are a bunch of no nothing whiners who hate themselves for being born american" hatenomor
Oh, OK,kind of like Clinton "not inhaling"? Seems to me your party made an awful lot about that.....
At least he wasn't doing cocaine.
And as far as us "hating America and themselves"????
That one still makes me laugh. I'll go toe to toe w/ you ANYTIME concerning a list of prominent American politicians of each party who have served and those who haven't. Got you WAY outnumbered there.
I don't think Kofi
is a weapons inspector.
that's okay
we understand that the world is a complicated place and you need to think a really smart person like dubya who talks your language is the only person you can trust. You love him because he takes care of you like a Big Brother, right?
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
YES???
you are aN IDIOT
Since it seems that
UNSCOM's verification of Iraqi compliance pretty much 'nailed it' on WMD your diversion and obsfucation shows you are little more than an apologist for the Bush Crime Family and the corrupt Republican Congress . . .
Photo of Iraqi WMD's
For this we embarked on the illegal Bush War ????
UN inspectors or Bush????
"And we are to believe UN Inspectors first and foremost?" dt509er
YUP, seems the UN Inspectors were dead on right when it came to Iraq, eh, sonny???
Who was wrong on Iraq, the IAEA or Bush?
You're probably too scared to answer.
BTW where the fuck is OSAMA????
UN
Monkey and company, funded by your tax dollars
Lies to war
Once again they have tried to fix the facts to suit their agenda of war. Perpetual war in the Middle East is the military industrial complex's wet dream.
We have become the evil empire.
"Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves." Confucius
you should be ashamed of yourself
and please excuse yourself from our country
"and please excuse yourself
"and please excuse yourself from our country
Submitted by jmg93 on "
Actually, please go fuck yourself, because this is MY COUNTRY too.
I don't know where everyone on this site....
stands politically, but I don't recall any progressives telling anyone to leave the US. That is the point of democracy, folks.
i know, that's an unfortunate fact
i have to live with
you admit you are a freedom
hating fascist at least.
As usual
when I come around and bitch slap you, suddenly,
you go silent.
Must be something about the deep guilt you have about being an imposter.
You've met your master, beotch.
"i know, that's an
"i know, that's an unfortunate fact
i have to live with" jmg93
Yup, freedom is work, ain't it. Just glad you realize that the point of FREEDOM is that you and I can disagree and still live together peacefully.
If it get's too much for you, I suppose you could find someplace else to live, but I'd never tell you that that's what you should do.
Peace out....
jmg - No, you don't HAVE to live with it ...
you are MORE than welcome to move to a country where you have no choice in the matter BUT to support the government. Move someplace where all are forced to support the government. This way, you don't HAVE to live with anything other than what you are forced to live with.
JMG93
Sorry but my people was here first and I am going no where. On another note if it was not for the native people there would not be a constution. If you do not belive me look up Irquis Confederation and see.
If I go back to the resvation it is to help my tribe(Pawnee), and I bet other natives on the board feel the same way. If you do not want to follow the law of the land, and keep breaking it then there is a place for you called jail.
Brother Cherokee seconds that motion
when all else fails, vote from the rooftops
All Nazi criminals should go to jail immediately.
First Witness against Saddam said:
He told me, "Shut up!"
Does this mean O'Lielly is guilty of war crimes , too?
lolol
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saddam_trial_35
On Thursday, the first witness, a 57-year-old Kurdish farmer, testified that Saddam aggressively told him to "shut up" when he pleaded for the release of nine relatives who disappeared in an offensive on his northern Iraqi village nearly two decades ago.
"I told Saddam, 'Sir, my family members were arrested,'" Abdullah Mohammed Hussein recounted.
"Saddam asked me where, and I told him, 'in my village.' Saddam said, 'Shut up. Your family is gone in the Anfal,'" Hussein said, referring to Iraq's 1987-88 campaign to suppress a Kurdish revolt in northern Iraq.
The witness looked anxious as he gave the opening testimony in the fourth court session this week.
Hussein said he had not been shy about arguing with Saddam, whom he had been allowed to see in response to a plea he presented to local authorities in his village.
Speaking in Kurdish through an Arabic translator, Hussein said Saddam told him, "Shut up. Don't talk anymore. Get out of here."
"I saluted him, saying, 'Yes, sir.' And I left. I consoled myself, thinking that Saddam may feel sorry for me and set my family free. I was very sad. But I really hoped he would release them," Hussein said.
I bet Gonzo based his Gitmo laws on Saddam.... What do you think?
More war crimes
14 September 2006,
Amnesty International has accused Hezbollah of acts amounting to war crimes in the conflict with Israel.
Amnesty has already accused Israel of committing war crimes by targeting Lebanon's civilian infrastructure and is urging a UN inquiry into violations.
Hezbollah rejected the report, calling it a result of US and Israeli pressure.
Hezbollah MP Hassan Fadlallah said Amnesty should analyse the number of civilians killed on each side, before accusing Hezbollah of war crimes.
Amnesty says what it calls Israel's violations can in no way justify Hezbollah's actions.
'No justification'
It said Hezbollah had fired nearly 4,000 rockets into northern Israel, killing 43 civilians and forcing hundreds of thousands to flee.
Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah
Amnesty said Sheikh Nasrallah did a U-turn on civilian targeting
It noted that although Hezbollah had said its policy was not to target civilians, its leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said the policy was changed in REPRISAL for Israeli attacks on Lebanese civilian areas.
It quoted Sheikh Nasrallah as saying: "As long as the enemy undertakes its aggression without limits or red lines, we will also respond without limits or red lines."
OMFG
Of course there was always doubt in the back of my mind about the current administrations assertions regarding Iran. IRAN'S GONNA GET US!!" I'm so sick of this BS. Just wish I could go ONE DAY without hearing the words "fear", "terrorist", "war in Iraq" or "afraid". It's obvious the only thing the neo-cons have to go on is National Security & they're trying to push the fear right down our throats. "Be afraid, be very afraid." Absolutely can't wait 'til November.
It's funny
how they count on americans short memories when they contradict earlier statements and swear the current 'truth' has always been the truth. But now they are expecting the same americans to dredge up that 5-year-old fear of terrorists to suit their current compare. Love that they even ratcheted up the silly color-coded alert system.
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)
oops
current compare should read current campaign.
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956)