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The Imam al-Askari mosque in Samarra was attacked by an unidentified group this morning in Iraq. This is the second time in over a year that the Iman al-Askari mosque has been attacked.
Gaza, Samarra....
Could This Be The Flash Point For The Middle East
It takes a village to have an idiot - Actor212
Important Shine?
Important Shine Attacked In Iraq
Don't attack the shine! If Iraq loses its luster well that is the last straw!
I am f u bush2
I am druid
I am broken_scooter
monkeys like things that shine...
Is it time to rapture these fake christians yet?
It would explain one thing.
It would certainly explain the Gloss-o-lalia that comes from Shrub.
How often do you get puns based on obscure Greek words?
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
-Daniel P. Moynihan
Chimpy does have the "gift of tongue", doesn't he? lol!!
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Americans.....
Would NEVER do that....
Would they?
Not in this case
It doesn't really matter at this point who it was that attacked. They could be Shi'a, Sunni...or for that matter, al-Qaeda, which has a stake in maintaining the instability of Iraq.
The end result, however, will be the same as it was last time. A ramping up of the factional fighting, and an increase in American deaths as they become even more obvious targets of opportunity for BOTH sides.
If it looks, sounds, smells and walks like a civil war, that's what it should be called. It hasn't been an "insurgency" for around two years now. And US troops have no business in that country in the middle of a civil war.
Time to redeploy, kids. Time to keep any more good Americans from dying for the Oathbreaker's Fernando Poo.
The Iraq occupation: slow grind to nowhere.
Why on earth would anyone
Why on earth would anyone with a brain want to keep our troops in the middle of a civil war, serving only as moving targets? Bring our troops home NOW.
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Ok, AA, no topic on Iran supplying weps?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070613/ap_on_re_eu/iran_taliban;_ylt=AvcOFw...
Iran giving weps to insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan...I do believe this to be an act of war...
"There's irrefutable evidence the Iranians are now doing this," Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said on CNN. "It's certainly coming from the government of Iran. It's coming from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard corps command, which is a basic unit of the Iranian government."
Speaking separately to The Associated Press, Burns said NATO must act to stop the shipments. The Iran-Afghanistan frontier is "a very long border. But the Iranians need to know that we are there and that we're going to oppose this."
an act of war against whom?
The iraqi factions are fighting each other as much as they are fighting us. We DO NOT OWN IRAQ, and our troops should never have been there in the first place. So therefore, and I'm playing devil's advocate here, the Iranians are either supporting freedom fighters to trying to repel invaders and occupiers OR they are supporting their factional section of Islam within Iraq to make sure they come out on top. This last part again means that we need to get the fuck out of there because there is NOTHING we can do about any of this. The Iraqis will continue to fight each other whether we stay or go, we cannot attack Iran without disastrous consequences, and Chimpy refuses to use diplomacy so therefore our options are a bit limited eh?
Is Iran predominantly Shiite or Sunni?
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Shi'a
is the official state religion and dialect spoken.
Thanks VI - I wasn't sure.
So now not only are we, but the Saudi's as well, supplying the Sunni's and Iran supplying the Shi'a. The vicious cycle continues.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Shi'a is not a dialect, it's
Shi'a is not a dialect, it's a sect of Islam which does not accept the Caliphate. Farsi is the name of the language spoken in Iran and in a part of Afghanistan. Farsi (or Parsi) means Persian.
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many."
—Cheney, at the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Washington, August 1992.
mea culpa
I know it's a sect of Islam, the source I was looking at to make sure I was right that Iran is Shi'a oriented also had that listed as their dialect.
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 1:20pm
Maybe there's no story posted because no one believes word number one that comes out of the Bush administration on the subject of weapons? Especially when it comes to the use of "intel" to attack someone ...
Americans have been there and done that.
Submitted by frazzled on June 13, 2007 - 1:33pm. |
Look at the story. It didn't come from the US, it came from NATO.
Time to follow Lieberman's advice, take out Iran's training locations and while there, take out their nuclear ambitions... All can be done with air power...
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 1:48pm
You look at the story, chickenhawk.
"Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said on CNN"
Lieberman's advice is worthless.
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 1:48pm. |
Don't we have enough going on without getting into ANOTHER war? Isn't our military broken enough for you?
The only reason Lieberman has got a hard-on for bombing Iran is this ... Israel. Nothing more, nothing less.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
What do you not understand
about the story is all LIES? It is propaganda to start another war! Do your research warmonger.
Is this bull crap like the
Is this bull crap like the last time they were accused of supplying weapons to Iraqis? Weapons with dates in English on them?
Why would Iran arm the Taliban, whom they HATE and who represent the antithesis of Shi'a Islam? The Taliban, who oppressed the Persians and the Shi'as in Afghanistan?
I think this story is a bunch of bull, like WMDs in Iraq, and like the weapons the Americans tried to pawn off on the Iranians. It's a lie created to give us a reason to attack Iran.
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many."
—Cheney, at the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Washington, August 1992.
Iran is NOT supplying weapons
it is all lies which you are stupid enough to believe.
is Iran cut'n into the CIA's weapons sale?
Is it time to rapture these fake christians yet?
It's a mirror of the WMD claims for Iraq
The story is intended to incite the US populace to demand military action against Iran, thereby spreading said US military even thinner than it already is...possibly even beyond the breaking point.
It's intended to give the Oathbreaker an excuse to invoke that newly-issued directive whereby he, and he alone, may take complete and total control over all functions of government, thereby forming a dictatorship cloaked in the flag and illuminated by the flames from the burning Constitution.
It's Fernando Poo. And a fnord. Nothing more.
If it comes to pass, I'll be seeking asylum elsewhere. 'Nuff said.
For the ordinary American, the price of "New Democracy" in other countries is the death of real democracy at home. ~~~Arundhati Roy
Al Gore on Saddam's WMD
http://www.youtube.com/%20watch?v=NVUO7voM-ns
We should have hit Iran long ago. Now we have hard proof and reason.. Not that them taking the hostages wasn't reason enough. Carter should have stopped the "Islamic Revolution" in his administation..
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 1:21pm
You're not getting any better at posting that link, dummy.
On some great & glorious day the plain folks will reach their hearts desire at last, & the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. - H.L. Mencken
Look at the FACTS here
The US can NOT afford to get involved in yet another military action. Let's try this real slow just to make sure you get it: we don't have the means. No men, no materiel, no logistical support, and arguably most importantly, no support from other nations. It's all been squandered, spent, burned off, thrown away...and all for the Almighty Petro-Dollar.
Indignation is one thing. But in this, common sense MUST rule. The continued existence of the United States as a world power relies on it.
I pray to all that's holy that I'm wrong about this. But all the evidence says I'm right. And that makes me very, very sad for my nation.
For the ordinary American, the price of "New Democracy" in other countries is the death of real democracy at home. ~~~Arundhati Roy
Submitted by nonexistent man on June 13, 2007 - 2:26pm. |
This is an eazy one. A few GBU-43/B or Tac-nukes and a few BGM-109 (Tomahawks). No invasion necessary just give them something to think about...
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 2:43pm
And you really think the Iranian's are going to sit by silently??
I can envision one scenario ... Iranian's POURING into Iraq for retribution ... and we won't see three or four soldier's deaths a day but HUNDREDS of their deaths a day.
This is PROGRESS??
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Submitted by Pookie2112 on June 13, 2007 - 2:51pm. |
And if that happened we would decimate their entire fighting force in one fell swoop. Think we can't? Remember how easily we eliminated Saddams Military? Our air power hasn't even really been tapped in this war. First, they have to MAKE IT INTO the fight, not gonna happen, oh a few tanks will but that is about it...
Um Dude
Comparing Iraq's military at the time to Iran's military of present is like comparing a kitchen knife to an M16. I'm not saying we definitely couldn't win against them, but it would be a lot more bloody and violent than you think. Iran has an AIR FORCE man, they also have MISSILES, TANKS, and much of the same shit we have. So yeh, most likely we could win against their military, but it wouldn't be the cakewalk you're making it out to be. America is NOT invincible.
Besides that, Russia and
Besides that, Russia and China will not sit silently by if we attack Iran. They will attack us.
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many."
—Cheney, at the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Washington, August 1992.
Submitted by Vicariously I Live on June 13, 2007 - 3:08pm. |
Hey, I'm not saying it wouldn't be messy and we wouldn’t lose people but it would solve the problem of the Islamic Fundies getting their grubby little hands on a nuke. (For a little while anyway).
As for Russia and China attacking us...Not gonna happen as that would mean MAD. Unlike our enemy (Fanatic Muslims), the Chinese and Russians want to live as much as we do...Hey, the Russians have a score to settle with Islamic Radicals too, remember Beslan?
IMO, in our long term national interest, it seems to have become necessary to end the "Islamic Revolution".... It would be really nice if the Iranian people would do it for us, but I don't think they can/will..
stop saying "OUR"
YOU are the minority! Few people are stupid enough to believe more of Bush lies. WE are the majority. YOU do not speak for american people. WE do!
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 3:20pm. |
What's to stop Russia from providing the Fundies a nuke? China? Pakistan? India?
And, what's to stop Russa and/or China from attacking us? Just because YOU say so?
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
$10.oo a gal. for gas????
think our economy can take it???Is it time to rapture these fake christians yet?
It's about oil, and the
It's about oil, and the Russians and Chinese don't want us controlling all the oil in the Middle East. They are already helping Iran out. Don't think they'll simply sit by while we take control of the strategic resources on which they, too depend. You've got a pretty simplistic view of the world.
"And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many."
—Cheney, at the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Washington, August 1992.
how many ships(troops) are.....
you willing to give up for it????????????Is it time to rapture these fake christians yet?
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 3:05pm. |
That's all, huh?
Is that like we'll be treated as liberators, with our soldiers drowning in hugs, kisses, flowers and candy?
Like the insurgency being in its last throes?
Like the war will last six days, six weeks but doubtful six months?
Yes, everything is simple in your simple, black and white world but know this, we bomb Iran, there will be even MORE hell to pay. And, those soldier's currently in Iraq? They'll be back here ... in pine boxes. And not two or three at a time.
Perhaps you can strap yourself to one of those bombs and tell us how it goes ...
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
as long as you dont have to go
Cant give up those socialist benefits you enjoy so much
Are you REALLY that clueless?
And here I was starting to think that maybe...just maybe...you were capable of rational thought.
The US attacks Iran, Iran responds in theatre, the US escalates with a tactical nuke or two, China and Russia see it as a threat to their national security and respond with ICBMs (which China still has in plenty), the US retaliates with Minuteman IIIs.
What you're advocating is the initiation of MAD. Nothing less. And I will fight you tooth and nail, if need be, to prevent that.
Got your fallout shelter built and stocked? It's going to be the only place you can survive. For a little while, anyway.
GWB43: the reign of error.
Submitted by Fight4it on June 13, 2007 - 2:21pm. |
And how do you propose we get into ANOTHER war? We've made a MESS out of Messopotamia; we STARTED to clean up Afghanistan but cut and ran to Iraq, leaving THAT country a mess. Our military is already beyond stretched.
If you are so hellbent on war ... GO.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Gee, maybe we should listen to what Al Gore would do. . .
Hmmmm, let's hear what Al Gore had to say about Saddam back when he was running to be the VP. . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUO7voM-ns
Gee Al, were you lying then or are you lying now. . . the world will never know. Nobel Peace Prize my ass. . . what a hypocrite. Just like that bitch Hillary. Maybe she gave him a nice BJ back then when Billy Boy was getting one.
Submitted by jtwalterz on June 13, 2007 - 2:22pm
Thanks for the spam, dittohead. Could you direct us to the part where he recommends pulling weapons inspectors and occupying Iraq?
Thanks again.
Submitted by frazzled on June 13, 2007 - 1:26pm
He & FRightenedTwit are Googling their asses off looking for a Gore quote to that effect. Silly contards....
On some great & glorious day the plain folks will reach their hearts desire at last, & the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. - H.L. Mencken
Submitted by Guy Fawkes on June 13, 2007 - 2:36pm. |
I OBVIOUSLY missed something ... is Gore president?? If not, why is this an issue?
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Submitted by Pookie2112 on June 13, 2007 - 1:39pm
I think it's obvious that they're scared shitless that he might still opt to join the '08 race. Their shrillness is quite telling.
On some great & glorious day the plain folks will reach their hearts desire at last, & the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. - H.L. Mencken
Submitted by Guy Fawkes on June 13, 2007 - 2:47pm. |
Fear - a contards best friend. Without it they are lonely people.
I hope against all hope Gore steps in!
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
Poor little troll-monkey
What a shame. Your indignation has to include a BJ. That smacks of jealousy.
If someone ever blew the Oathbreaker, would you then call for his impeachment? Or are you waiting for the collapse of the US economy?
Go back to bed before you hurt yourself, and your precious g0p, any more than you already have.
GWB43: the reign of error.
Submitted by jtwalterz on June 13, 2007 - 2:22pm. |
Al GORE sent our troops into Iraq?
Al GORE is PRESIDENT??!!
Well, slap me silly with a wet noodle ... I must have slept through the 2004 elections ...
You sir, are a flaming idiot.
"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM
HEY CONTARD!
That was, what?... FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS AGO, DOUCHEBAG??
Got anything from THIS CENTURY??
Nothing any of you assholes can say will change the fact that THIS IS BUSH'S WAR... ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
President Shit-For-Brains is personally responsible FOR THE WORST FOREIGN POLICY DISASTER IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND WILL BE REMEMBERED AS THE WORST PRESIDENT THIS NATION EVER HAD.
Suck on that, shithead.
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Oh your all lovin this story
Oh your all lovin this story too, you guys must like seeing death and destruction.
All so you can gloat, all because you been brainwashed "bush lied".
and thats about the extent of your constant BS.
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"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
One word
FNORD!
The Iraq occupation: slow grind to nowhere.
Then provide proof
that Bush did not lie! Why cant you? Provide proof of one thing that Bush lied about. Where are the WMDs that Bush said Saddam had! Why do you not have any proof that Bush did not lie?
I think we just need a little excitement
once in a while.
I get tired of watching all the boring footage of WMD's being transported to destruction zones as well as the footage of WMD destruction itself.
I am also sick of all of those documents showing a undeniable link between Hussein and Al Kaeda in the 9/11 attack being paraded acrossed the evening news.
I can't tell you how sick I am of seeing footage of streets full of flowers thrown at the feet of our soldiers by all of those grateful Iraqis now fully liberated and free to form the government of their choice and do as they wish with their resources.
Once in a while we need action to break the monotony.
If we liked death and destruction...
we would be Bush supporters.
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30,000 U.S. casualties.
Half a million dead Iraqis.
Total chaos with no end in sight.
An empowered Iran.
America despised around the world.
A broken military.
Trillions in debt.
HECKUVA JOB, BUSHIE!... You should give yourself the "Medal of Freedom"!
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And when you get your way it
And when you get your way it will be
500,000 U.S. casualties in our country and theirs.
an additional million dead Iraqis.
Total chaos with no end in sight for the whole region.
An empowered Iran, with even more status.
America despised around the world, because we left them high and dry.
A broken military, that dems won't fund, even in peace times..
Trillions in debt, with your Hillary support for NAFTA raising it.
Ya thats more like it.
WARNING
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"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
Wrong yet again
If we get our way, the soldiers will be home. No more murdered soldiers. America is already despised because of Bush, liberals always fix that, Clinton is loved worldwide. Bush put us trillions in debt, we liberals will fix that again too, like Clinton did. You just got nothing left, do you? Just more easily debunked lies.
I notice you completely avoid addressing the current reality.
How convenient... Run away from reality... Run away to fantasy land.
Nice cut and paste action... How clever.
Have you EVER had an original thought?
Original thought?
If he ever did, and admitted to it, they'd pull his lifetime podcast membership for EIB. It's against the rules for troll-monkeys to think, y'know. Defeats the purpose of the Official Talking Points.
Sometimes it's so easy I'm ashamed of myself...
HEY Q-TARD!
So far you have been completely wrong about absolutely EVERYTHING.
You're like a retarded William Kristol... all mouth, all wrong, and no shame... William Kristol with a two digit I.Q.
FUCK YOU.
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In contrast, everything I've predicted about Iraq has come to pass.
Latest correct prediction: The surge tactic of splitting forces into small groups in neighborhood "Fort Apaches" would dramatically increase U.S. casualties.
IT'S MAGIC! HOW DO I DO IT?!
Watch this! I can do it all day:
Next prediction: In September, Petraeus' report will be a non-committal "glass half full/empty" affair settling absolutely nothing.
Prediction two: In six to nine months, troop reduction will begin (under some assinine cover name). THERE SIMPLY ARE NO MORE TROOPS and no amount of your inane blathering is going to change that.
Prediction three: You will get your wish... We will be in Iraq, in multiple division strength, long after President Shit-For-Brains has slithered off the world stage into perpetual infamy AS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
Hell, my powers of prognostication (look it up, Contard) are so powerful, I'm changing my name.
Sincerely,
"The Amazing AG!"
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