Immigration Bill In Trouble With New GOP Provision

Are you talking about the "reality" the majority of the world accepts, or the "reality" Darth is trying to push off on America? The evidence says yours is the latter, not the former...and that's a reality sane people reject, in favor of the one everyone else in the world accepts.

Give THAT a try sometime. If you can stand being in the light of FACTS.

Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. ~~~Robert A. Heinlein

They all can be legal as long as they follow some simple rules

1. Must pay a fine whether they want to become a citizen or not
2. Must pay back taxes
3. Must be honest when filling out I-9s cannot use their families where they come from as a deduction. All deductions must have a legit social security number
4. If you just want to work here you cannot bring your family members along with you. You are here to work only not to put a burden on our society.
5. If you are here to work you cannot collect welfare or unemployment. If you lose your job better find another one or go home. Remember you are to work and send money home. I don’t want to support your family wherever you came from
6. If you have a record or are in a gang you automatically go back from wherever you came from, No exceptions.
7. If you want to become a citizen you cannot bring your whole family up here. Only immediate family. Not your ants and uncles and cousins. They must get a visa to visit you and then go back when the visa expires and cannot collect welfare either or attend schools here.
8. If you go to the doctor or emergency room you must pay your bill or automatically go back to your country and your country can pay for your bill.
9. If you come here you must know how to speak English. I don’t have to speak your language to accommodate you. You are in my country and must accommodate me. Learn English before you come here or stay home.
10. You cannot collect welfare until you become a citizen. If you want to be lazy go home and do it, not here.
11. You cannot vote until you become a citizen.

if you have anything to add just post it..

hope you don't think that i am not to harsh

I am a site manager for a clean up compant that clean meat plants and employ hispanics. Until about a year ago when my company started using the pilot program we could not tell if they are illegal or not. We would only make sure that the picture matches them and the signitures matches also. and the obvisouly fake documents, otherwise i have no idea if they are legal or not. you get suspisious when they put 5-9 on their I-9s and get no taxes taken out of their checks but no proof. It really makes me mad when i look at my check and the goverment takes out mnore taxes on one of my checks than my whole crew (12) for the whole year!!! I like the guys but they need to do their part by paying into society like the rest of us.

I agree - you are a moron.

"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM

That's unfortunate that you feel even doing a little is nothing. Like I stated in my above post, I have always been of the "better to have a little than nothing at all" school of thought. While Clinton may have done little, Chimpy certainly likes the do nothing at all approach.

"Republicans should never skip their meds." P.J. O'Rourke, May 25, 2007, RTWBM

North American Partnership for Security and Prosperity
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050323-5.html
PRIME MINISTER MARTIN: President Vicente Fox of Mexico, President Bush

Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America
http://www.spp.gov/

The idea to form the North American Union as a super-NAFTA knitting together Canada, the United States and Mexico into a super-regional political and economic entity was a key agreement resulting from the March 2005 meeting held at Baylor University in Waco, Tex., between President Bush, President Fox and Prime Minister Martin. Following the March 2005 meeting in Waco, Tex., the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) published in May 2005 a task force report titled “Building a North American Community.

People like you are DEFINETELY swelling the ranks of white supremacy groups.

On some great & glorious day the plain folks will reach their hearts desire at last, & the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. - H.L. Mencken

PRESIDENT BUSH: I will continue to push for reasonable, common-sense immigration policy with the United States Congress. It is an issue with which I have got a lot of familiarity -- after all, I was the governor of this great state for six years and I dealt with this issue a lot, not only with President Fox's predecessors, but with governors of border states -- Mexican border states, Tamaulipas and Nuevo Leon. And I know what -- I know the issue well. And I will continue to call upon Congress to be commonsensical about this issue.
And the basis of the policy is that if there is a job opening which an American won't do, in other words -- and there's a willing worker and a willing employer, that job ought to be filled on a legal basis, no matter where the person comes from. That makes sense. We need a compassionate policy. In other words, if this is in place, someone will be able to come and work from Mexico in the United States, and be able to go home -- back and forth across the border in a legal fashion. That seems to make sense to me. It's a commonsensical way of doing things.
We appreciate the fact that Canada's tar sands are now becoming economical, and we're glad to be able to get the access toward a million barrels a day, headed toward two million barrels a day. And I want to thank -- and that's, by the way, an advantage for open trade; the American people must understand that when there is open trade, it helps solve our energy deficiency.

Pres. Bush signed away our sovereignty to form the North American Union of Canada, the United States, and Mexico. Papers were signed in 2001 and again in Waco, TX in 3/2005.

Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America
http://www.spp.gov/

North American Partnership for Security and Prosperity
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050323-5.html

Council on Foreign Relations
Building a North American Community
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/

I will post a small exerpt from Jerome R. Corsi dated 05/24/06:

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15059

Without announcing his intentions to do so, President Bush has decided to support the creation of a North American Union through a process of governmental regulations, never having to bring the issue before the American people for a clear referendum or vote.

The Bush Administration has decided to "back-door" the creation of a North American Union political entity that would effectively erase our borders with Mexico and Canada and create several super-regional governing bodies that would have jurisdiction over the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court.

This analysis has been advanced by economist Miguel Pickard at the Center for Economic and Political Research for Community Action (CIEPAC) in Chiapas, Mexico. Writing for the International Relations Center in New Mexico, Pickard explains how what he calls "NAFTA Plus" is being put in place by political elites in the U.S., Mexico, and Canada, largely without explanation to or understanding by the public in any of the three countries.

Bush SOLD OUT The United States; Phase II
by pb_true on June 6, 2006 - 11:06am.

The North American Union is due to be in place in 2010. There will be no more United States, nor Canada, nor Mexico. We will all use Ameros instead of dollars, and we will all have to have a biometric resident ID.
I do not know how many of you are ready to trash our country, but I have big doubts. This has been planned for 10 yrs now. Papers were signed in 2001, and in 2005. This is why our borders are left wide open. Bush took an oath to uphold and protect our country and Constitution, not to sell us off for the NEW WORLD ORDER.

North American Partnership for Security and Prosperity
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050323-5.html

The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero'
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017

The Case for the Amero:
The Economics and Politics of a North American Monetary Union
http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/readmore.asp?sNav=pb&id=152

Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America
http://www.spp.gov/
ation/81
Council on Foreign Relations
Building a North American Community
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/

the lower standard of living Canadians are experiencing.
http://www.bankintroductions.com/canada.html
KNOWLEDGE: current analysis has Canada's proven recoverable oil reserves using existing technology at a cost of $9 per barrel at 180 billion barrels. Canada is number two in the world for economical recoverable oil reserves, second to only Saudia Arabia

Organization of American States
http://www.oas.org/

Smart Border: 22 point agreement
U.S. - Mexico Border Partnership Action Plan
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/usmxborder/22points.html

30 Point Action Plan for creating a Secure and Smart Border
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/ft-30point.htm

Canadian Democratic Movement
http://www.canadiandemocraticmovement.ca/displayarticle771.html

1. The Canada - U.S. Smart Border Declaration signed Dec 12,2001. Note John Manley signed this when he was deputy Prime Minister along with Tom Ridge, US Homeland Security Director. Manley is now the head of the North American Union Task Force promoting the end of the nations of Canada, USA, and Mexico, as we know them.

A STRATEGY FOR OUR NORTH AMERICAN PARTNERSHIP
http://www.dfait.gc.ca/cip-pic/IPS/IPS-Diplomacy5-en.asp