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The Thom Hartmann Program - May 20th 2008

By Louise Hartmann

Hour One  - Topic: How long has the government been lying to us in order to impoverish the middle class?

Hour Two  -  Guest: Mark Zussman,  Editor in Chief, Willamette Week www.wweek.com  Topic: If Obama clinches the nomination today, where do we go from here?

Guest: Mark Dice Founder of the Christian Group "The Resistance"  www.theresistancemanifesto.com Topic: Why are you boycotting the Starbucks' logo...does it really offend you or are you just looking for attention?

Hour Three  - Guest:  Jeff Sharlet www.therevealer.org Topic: His new book "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power"

Guest: "Full Monty Alert" Jennifer Moss  Topic: naked activism

Just Because You're Paranoid Doesn't Mean ...

Kooks worried about the Starbucks logo or the Proctor & Gamble insignia are a huge distraction from very real concerns. But, just because a bunch of unsavory paranoid types have glommed onto an idea does not necessarily make it untrue.

Think about it - if elites in power - the mysterious "they" element in all of this - wanted to discredit their detractors, wouldn't it be in their interests to associate them in the public mind with paranoid holocaust deniers and anti-Semites? The only thing that makes a group or person a bigger pariah than casting them as a Jew-hater is if they could somehow portray them as a pedophile - it's pretty effective. It's also pretty well documented that agent provocateurs were planted in the peace and counterculture movement of the psychedelic generation to lead groups into illegal directions and dubious ideology that would discredit them and give probable cause to gun for them - sometimes literally, as the many assassinations of the era demonstrate.

Similarly, I'm convinced that "they" use these racist groups to discredit many dissenting opinions and valid criticisms, as is seen in the way that the 9/11 Truth movement is always lumped in with these creeps in the media, and how the movement sometimes gets tainted by crazy disinfo possibly fed in to confuse and discredit. "They" are not Jews or Zionists or International Bankers or the Bilderbergers - although there could be purely incidental overlap. Elites and those in power, regardless of their affiliations, are behind this - nothing mysterious about that - just open your eyes.

Point is, it's not fair or constructive in any way to lump ANYBODY who wants to point at our incremental slide towards fascism and globalism in with neo-nasties, who are sometimes defacto government agents. Thom does make a good point in that there’s not much much mystery these days - “they” operate in plain sight now – the public accepts increasing tyranny and a globalist agenda with “Eyes Wide Shut," as their consent is manufactured for them.

- Gary Roscoe Johnson