@ James

pt 1. How do you bring change if you have become the "what" people want to change?

pt 2. we did not feel "this way" about way about Kerry, Gore yes, Kerry no. He was a sad reflection of all the Dems could muster in 2004, just as McCain has become the best the R's can muster this year.

pt 3. I am tired of counting solely on "Ohio" to deliver the WH, when 2 elections in a row they have voted against their own best interests. I am willing to consider the "new electoral map" offered, given the rust belt continues to atrophy & brain drain to the West, who's states grow & increases % of those not content with the status quo.

pt 4. Hillary never reconciled her vote to authorize war, that is the underlying reason why she did not wrap up the nomination months ago.

pt 5. Hillary has crossed the line so far, she is losing her identity as a Dem. i.e., Iran & Gas tax Holiday.

pt 6. now because Hillary didn't raise as much money it is the Obama's fault? Hello, you fail to remember she has the bully-pulpit of Bill, who raises $millions giving speechs, to more than compensate getting out Hillary's message. Hillary had fame to boot going into this, that Obama did not, so your point is moot and airs of "jealousy" & envy.

Bill spent the better part of a week before the Oregon elections courting the rural voters, to the tune of about 30,000 voters not to mention Hillary' & Chelsea's visits. Obama rallied his supporters in 2 & 1/2 days, spending under 1 day in the real non-urban areas of Oregon. For the most part they split the vote in the rural areas. If Bill Clinton can't rally the supporters over 7 days, then what does that say about Hillary's popularity and ideas?

We have a tough job of both carrying the Dem Presidential in this "not all liberal" state let alone a very difficult campaign of booting Gorden Smith, that we no longer need this decisiveness to turn away any single democratic voter that we need each & every one to get Smith out of his rural supported entrenched position.

Pt. 7 Hope is what we all crave and what we all need, not pander & devision.

ps if not caught above in my quirky post, I am sick of being characterized by HRC as having a silver spoon in my mouth because i have a degree. I have to work hard every day to make ends meet to, so why am I not "working class" also?