Shma Yisroel
J Street, The pro-peace/pro-Israel/pro-Palestine Jewish lobby just released a monster of a poll on American Jewish political attitudes. The takeaway: we're liberal as hell; we hate Bush; we know Bush has been a disaster for Israel; we'll support any peace deal the Israelis make; and the only thing we're uncomfortable with to that end is giving East Jerusalem back to the Palestinians.
Let's go down the line. Seventy-four percent of us view Bush unfavorably and 83 percent of us disapprove of his job performance. While 76 percent of the country as a whole says the U.S. is on the wrong track, an astonishing 90 percent of American Jews say the same. Only 21 percent of us approve of the Iraq war and only 29 percent think Bush is good for Israel, and those are clearly the shmucks that kissed ass in Hebrew school and snitched when the rest of us used the synagogue phone booth and cloakroom to make out or get high.
When asked if the U.S. should or shouldn't actively broker Mideast peace, it broke down 55 percent for U.S. involvement and 30 percent against. J Street, the menschen, took that a step further and examined support for the hard choices piece requires. "Even if it meant the United States publicly stating its disagreements with both the Israelis and the Arabs?" Yes -- 75 percent; no -- 25 percent. "Even if it meant the United States exerting pressure on both Israelis and Arabs to make the compromises necessary for peace?" Yes -- 70 percent; no -- 30 percent.
In terms of negotiating positions for an Arab-Israeli settlement, 59 percent agree that Israel will need to "withdraw from most of the West Bank and dismantle many of the Israeli settlements." Another 58 percent agree that for full peace with Syria -- and an abandonment of their support for Hamas and Hezbollah -- Israel should get out of the Golan. Only 44 percent, though, endorse the statement that Palestinian East Jerusalem should be part of the state of Palestine. And while that's the only non-majority position among American Jews for what can fairly be called the dovish line, 44 percent is still a substantial amount of support.
J Street's poll supports its contention that the attitudes of most of us are far, far out of whack with what this country's self-appointed Jewish leaders -- the Joe Liebermans, the AIPACs, the Sheldon Adelsons, the Commentary magazines -- say we're about and what we're actually about.
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- July 16, 2008








Mich
Mich
You aren't a liberal. Being a real liberal requires to much effort for you. Real liberals have to learn and understand history, accept that there are different positions (even misinformed ones like yours), be able to differentiate between truth and fiction, be able to understand when you are being led astray and why. No, you are the type of person who likes to feel that he is liberal so you pretend to support liberal causes while continuing to wallow in wilfull ignorance.
Of course you are swayed by Faux News. In this instance your fake news and information is being supplied by Arab propagandists instead of Fox News.
Even our beloved AAR hosts occasionally mis-speak and intentionally or unintentionally supply incorrect information. The "news service" used by AAR is often less than completely accurate. That doesn't mean you should stop listening, only that you should get your information from a variety of sources and evaluate each one for accuracy.
If you prefer Arab sources, I can give them to you. Unfortunately most of them are pre-Israeli Independence. After Israeli Independence and particularly after 1967 the Arabs changed their narrative. Consistency over time, is a good indication that the position may have merit. The Israeli story has not changed, the Arabs change frequently for political advantage. Don't be fooled.
And by the way, you will find that most of us who know history and support Israel are also fine with yet another "Palestinian" state being created. Why? Because we don't really care if there is one "Palestinian" State (as Jordan is today) or two , or three, or four, or a dozen, as long as they live in peace with Israel, stop bombing Israeli towns and villages, stop sending terrorists into Israel, stop kidnapping Israeli's, stop trying to eradicate Israel, etc... It would also be nice if they woke up one day and realized that their troubles stem from the actions of their Arab brothers and not the Israelis. But that is probably asking too much.
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By RocketjsquirellJuly 17, 2008 - 3:20pm