Beyond Tuesday’s Results, Republicans Facing Long-Term Decline
Monday November 2, 2009 2:52 p.m.
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As commentators seem ready to over-interpret tomorrow’s election results in three jurisdictions, they should instead consider how four long-term trends show the GOP engaged in political slow-motion suicide.


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Dont know if I should laugh, keep laughing, or die laughing at this article.
1) The Stimulous is working so well... they are now wanting to do another because they dont see any actual improvement. Every day brings more facts to light about the stimulous, mostly that the numbers are badly cooked as to how many jobs it really created. Reports of 5 jobs becoming 500. People being paid as little as $9 ONCE and that being counted as a job "saved".
2) How about that October 2009 report that said that the deficit for that month was more than ALL OF 2007 COMBINED! YIKES!
3) How about that lattest poll that said for the first time in 30 years that 57% of Americans no longer think that we should pass healthcare reform (use to be in the 30's). I think that they suddenly realized that what the libs are trying to pass, will bankrupt America.
4) Its really bad when China (a communist country) president yesterday said that America was spending too much on social issues. YIKES! and WOW!
5) I dont see how you can say that the population is turning liberal when less than 20% have claimed to be liberal. Bush won 2000 and 2004 with the help of a very large, conservative hispanic population. They voted for Obama in 2008 simply because they were voting against the radical spending that Bush was doing! Just wait until the 2010 and 2012 elections. With the democrats spending 100+ times that of Bush, Americans will vote the dems out of office.
6) Dont expect healthcare to be passed anytime soon. Liberals wont let it pass without abortion in it, and moderate dems wont let it pass with it in it. So its Dead when it hits the senate. They cant even get the 60votes needed to get it to the floor for consideration, let alone to get it passed. 20+ house liberals sent a letter to Pelosi that once it comes back from the Senate, if abortion "rights" are not in the bill, they will kill it!
So its still impossible for them to say that this country is becoming liberal.
huff-wow...a secularist attacking a christian for not being perfect? LMAO! How ripe! By reading your posts, you appear to this reader as an embittered man. You wouldn't happen to be disabled would you? It certainly would explain the vitriol in your posts. There are meds for that...seek medical advice. Hope it helps.
#39 beenexposedasabigot
So, what you're saying is that you'd like to correct the record to read:
"Libertarians -AKA - Americans that believe individuals should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as they're not Teh Gay!". --beenexposedasabigot
Gotchya.
Make that "wear" then rather then "where".
@Cap'n Crunch
Oh yeah, and if the adjectives you attributed to me fit....then where them. No apologies here, bro'.
@37.Captain John Schenck
Cap'n Crunch, gays and lesbians have the same marital rights as straights. They just have to "marry" someone of the opposite sex. Now they can go for that "civil union" thing or "partnership", if they so desire.
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#35 beenexposedasaracist
You didn't clear anything up. In fact, you made it more muddled.
Are you now saying that you think gays and lesbians should be left alone and be able to get married? That'd be quite a change of pace from when you thought "disease-ridden" "queermos" and "faggots" were "despicable" "sinners"...
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q bebeholmes+queermos&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
#34 beenexposedasaracist
"I'm a Libertarian, because I want less government intrusion and want me to spend my money as opposed to the government spending it. Which is why I think Bush did a heckuva job expanding government to include snooping on library records, phone calls, and private/personal belongings in clear violation of the First and Fourth Amendments and wasting hundreds of billions of dollars of my, my kids, and my kids' kids money in the sands of Iraq."
Well, it was sure tough fitting your glaring hypocrisy into one translation.
But I think I just about covered it...
@33.throwinheat97mph
Libertarians -AKA - Americans that believe individuals should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't deprive another citizen of life, liberty, or property. AKA - Americans that believe in being left alone by government to allow themselves to sink or swim on their own - AKA Personal responsibility or not needing mommie (the government to take care of your worthless ass from cradle to grave. Got it! Glad I could clear that up for you, junior.
@31.f u bush2
Yo, fubu, I don't know where you get your info, but none of the conservatives I know have bailed on Bush. As far as I'm concerned, Bush did a helluva job considering he was attacked on 9/11, fought 2 wars, won 1 of those and was winning the other when he left, had the Katrina situation. The bottom fell out when businesses saw what the next administration was going to look like. And look how the Obama experiment has screwed up in 9 months. What a bunch of amateurs. Americans won't make that mistake again for quite some time.
libertarians, AKA-- neocon enablers
#31 fubby
I've never seen so many Libertarians in all my short life.
There must be something about two failed wars, an economic disaster, federal felons in the White House, a city drowned, toe tapping in mens rooms, the worst terrorist attack on US soil (and on and on and on) that gets a little embarrassing over time.
But it sure wasn't in the meantime, as they either cheered along or sat silently by...
The "conservatives' are saying they are upset with the republican party and they are not supporters of Bush. The problem is that these people are hypocrites. Where were they when Bush was in office? Where were they when the republicans were running up debt and starting needless wars?
I'm liberal and I voted for Obama and I can tell you I am pissed off with some decisions by the Obama administration. And as I have said man times, the Obama administration and the democrats do not have my vote guaranteed in 2010 or 2012. I won't be a hypocrite. I don't expect all my desires to become manifest through the democrats either. But if a number of important issues are not dealt with appropriately then I will take my vote elsewhere.
But during Bush, the people who now say they are conservative and no fan of Bush, were defending him against all criticism.
The g0p is the "I can't recall" party.
Cheney, Reagan, they all do it. When they get in hot water, they suddenly can't remember anything.
Of course they are probably telling the truth. The Bush administration couldn't recall that the Clinton administration briefed then on Al Qaeda and couldn't recall that there was intelligence reported in a pdb that Osama was determined to attack. And that is why 9/11 happened.
#24 @ beenexposedasaracist
Translation:
"I'm terribly confused. Therefore, I vote Republican" --beenexposedasaracist
That about covers it.
@Uffdaguy
I believe operation Chaos was in response to democrats crossing party lines to vote in the Republican primary in some of the Northern states so Rush suggested that Republican voters do likewise. If I remember correctly, that operation kept Hufflarry happy because it prolonged Hillary's candidacy. I'm sure you remember some of the discourse between Huff and Pookie and several other libs.
@26 bebeholmes
And it wasn't dirty tricks for repubs to jam dem phone lines in NH several years ago? It was good enough to earn jail time. Rush pulled a little stunt called Operation Chaos in TX during the primaries last year. Dirty trick? And of course there was the repubs urging CT voters to vote for Lieberman instead of the repub candidate in 2008. Dirty enough yet?
I just saw on the news where the N.J. Democrat party is paying for robo calls to N.J. voters telling them to vote for the independent candidate. Talk about dirty tricks and November surprises.
@24 bebeholmes
There really isn't a need for a conservative party, because that is what the repub party is now. What is needed is a party for repubs who don't want ditch their moderate views in order to stay in the party. In the dim, dark past, I occasionally voted repub. I voted for whoever I thought could do the best job. Reagan began my turn away from repubs, and after 8 years of Bush, I can't see any conceivable circumstance that would have me voting for a repub. The dems are better, but they also seem to be bending to the wishes of big business. I'm a dem because there are no viable options for me either. Corporate money has destroyed the electoral process in America, and the voters are now almost immaterial, because the politicians, once elected, will only do the things their corporate sponsors want done. Politicians should just stop wearing the business suits and start wearing jumpsuits with the logos of their corporate sponsors on them, just like in NASCAR. At least you'd know who had been bought by which companies.
@23.Uffdaguy
I'm not Republican so maybe a new, more Conservative party is what we need. Seems to be working for Hoffman in New York in the Congressional Race. Actually, I'm more of a Libertarian, but I usually vote Republican because I don't want higher taxes, more government intrusion, I feel I can better spend my money than government can, and believe that my money shouldn't be stolen from me to give to others that didn't earn it. I do believe in helping those that can't help themselves, but that should be my choice as to who and how much.
What is really fascinating is the spectacle of watching a major political party slowly disintegrate with self-inflicted wounds. Watching the repubs purge moderates from their ranks in order to be more conservative, (on their theory that they have been trounced in the last two elections because they weren't extreme right enough), we are seeing the equivalent of a NASCAR driver wanting a faster car because he feels he lost the race when he didn't hit the wall in turn 1 fast enough. Where do moderate repubs go now? They don't necessarily go with the social agenda of the far right, and they don't want the big spending they see from both parties, and the conservatives represented by the tea baggers and birthers don't suit them either. This is a group that is begging for a new party, as are a lot of liberals who see the dem party becoming more heavily influenced by corporate America. The repub party is foundering on the rocks, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the dem party colliding with their own set of rocks in the future.
#7 beenexposedasaracist @ 8:38 a.m. • Tuesday November 3, 2009
"The next 3 years will be very interesting."
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Agreed.
Merely the thought/proposal of providing health coverage to your fellow Americans has you teabagging with your f(R)iends.
Just imagine your reactions when it gets signed into law by President Barack Hussein Obama, just before climate change legislation, immigration reform, and a repealing of Don't Ask Don't Tell that lets Teh Gays! run around openly with guns.
I can almost see your little wingnut heads exploding.
Interesting, indeed.
@18.Uffdaguy
I wasn't calling them criminals...just radicals. I was giving Mason1024 several examples of why Obama is considered a "radical". Obama, himself, said to judge him by the company he keeps and that was what I was doing.
#4 moderator
Try staying consistent, and deleting it.
Not enough said. You still didnt explain why you lied about Plame. Why did you lie? Why have you lied so many times here? I guess it just proves that you are no christian.
@bebeholmes
Your list meant absolutely nothing. If you want a real list of criminals and other miscreants, try George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Douglas Feith, Condi Rice, John Negroponte, Richard Perle, Frank Gaffney, Jack Abramoff..............
@15.Mason1024
Anita Dunn, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Carole Browner, Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder, Charles Freeman, Cass Sunstein, Rahm Emmaneal (head dog washer), John Holdren, etc.. Enough said.
So you cant explain why you lied. You have been caught lying in this forum many times. Why do you do it? You need to find Jesus and except his ways and teachings soon.
@bebeholmes #7 Re: Obama being a "radical"
It is in the interest of Republican political leaders to cast Obama (well, anyone to the left of themselves) as extreme radical communist socialists, no matter how inaccurate or even contradictory the name-calling may be. Republican leadership is pretty good at lying, but more specifically they are extremely adept at fooling their own supporters. So you end up with right-wing geniuses in desperate need of a dictionary howling about Obama being a "fascist" of all things. They might as well be angrily shouting, "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but I'm not going to take it anymore!" If you truly think Obama is a "radical," then I submit that you have been successfully duped by Republican leadership in that regard. I don't think any historians would say the US has ever had a truly "radical" President, except maybe Washington, for being the first leader of a radically different political system... but that was "radical" in the context of a monarchical status quo.
@13.hufflarry2000
LOL...you are falling off the deep end, Huffliar. Run...don't walk, to the nearest clinic, Huff. That guy in Cleveland that had all the bodies in his yard.......was he some of your kin there, Larry? How is that internal conflict working out? Is it Huff or Larry, today?
So you just lie because you are a liar. When did Jesus lie? The culture of laziness and ignorance of southerners is costing us real Americans a fortune. I blame your non achievement on the slave holding past in your culture. You people think others should do everything for you. You cant even achieve a decent education.
@11.hufflarry2000
ROFLMFAO.....just damn, Huff. Take a breath, then take those meds.
Why did you lie about Plame being being a covert agent? Is it because Jesus is a filthy liar like you are? How much experience did drunk, coke head Bush have when he was selected president? How are you few right wing extremists gonna defeat us? Didnt you say that in the last election?
@bebeholmes
Actually, it's a good thing that these investigations are happening, regardless of the party, and is a refreshing change from the years of repub rule, where repubs refused to investigate any repubs. If they are dirty, they need to go, regardless of party. My biggest concern is not that they are being investigated, but that if they are guilty, they still won't have anything done to them. Case in point was Vitter, who admitted he broke the law by hiring hookers, yet did anything happen to him? He got a standing ovation from repubs in the Senate chamber, and he is still there.
Just so everyone knows, it appears that all full-scale ethics investigations in the Congress of the U.S. involve democrats. And to top it off, all are of a protected segment of society. Perhaps the democrat leaders of both houses should be investigated for racism.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29055.html
hurry up and happen!!!
Let the fun begin. The next 3 years will be very interesting. By electing the most radical and un-experienced president in the history of the U.S. along with Reid and Pelosi, you have doomed your party.
These are all good signs - for the Democrats. Let's hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot, so to speak. Obama better think long and hard about Afghanistan....and other matters, as well. The more he can distance himself and his presidency from the Bush regime, the better off we will all be. He came in, on the winds of "change". I hope he will keep the momentum going.
John Belcher @ 3 is in some SERIOUS denial. Are you SERIOUS, John? With Rush, Faux, Beck and Cheney, it's the so called "conservatives" that need to worry. The people who hijacked the moniker of "conservative" are in the extreme minority. That sound you hear is the sound of the extremist wing of the (R) party being flushed out of existence. Buh Bye!
@ 3 John Belcher,
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