Christian Groups To Protest For The Right To Gay Bash
Wednesday November 11, 2009 10:45 a.m.
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The Christian Anti-Defamation Commission plans to protest the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which President Obama signed into law last month, by preaching outside of the Justice Department. Pastor Paul Blair is apparently concerned that the law will infringe on Christians' constitutional rights to act out their bigotry.
On November 16, 2009, at 1:30 PM, an ad hoc coalition of concerned ministers from various denominations will be holding a Press Conference and Rally for Religious Freedom in front of the Department of Justice.
A group of ministers including Rick Scarborough of Vision America, Gary Cass of the Christian Anti Defamation Commission, Bishop Earl Jackson of STAND America, Paul Blair and Steve Kern of Reclaim Oklahoma, Pat Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition, Brad Cranston of Iowa Baptists for Biblical Values and Jim Garlow, a leader in the Prop 8 battle in California will join together with others and boldly preach Biblical truth concerning the subject of homosexuality. If believing and proclaiming the Bible is considered a Hate Crime, then they are willing to be arrested, if necessary, in order to stand for the guaranteed First Amendment right to free speech for all ministers of the Gospel.
Bob Unruh at WorldNetDaily is also convinced that the new hate crimes law contains "restrictions on expression of religion and speech," because beating up LGBT Americans ought to be a protected expression of religion and speech. Unruh, Blair and their comrades in bigotry are also convinced that the Attorney General Eric Holder might personally show up to this rally to arrest them for massing an outdoor prayer group. Oy.
Mind you, Congress passed the Matthew Shepard Act to help protect gay Americans from anti-gay violence, not to eliminate Bible study or even prevent bigots from expressing their bigotry. The law explicitly identifies violent felonies motivated by prejudice based on the actual or perceived sexual orientation of the victim. It penalizes:
Who[m]ever, whether or not acting under color of law...willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, a dangerous weapon, or an explosive or incendiary device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person.
Matthew Shepard wasn't the target of a sermon; he was the victim of a lynching. So what specific provisions of the hate crimes law are this group protesting? The legislation is only a few pages, and the full text is even listed on Wikipedia, but one hopes they just haven't bothered to read it. Or maybe they have, and they're simply determined to speak out on behalf of would-be gay-bashers. But you know what? That's their right.


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GOD DOES NOT HATE ANY BODY OK? IF PEOPLE WOULD READ A KJV BIBLE THEY WOULD KNOW THAT.........DUH!
excuse me but... WHAT A CROCK.
@82.Willard N Whitmon Jr
Jesus and God the Father love the sinner, but hate the sin. That is why God sent Jesus to Earth, to save mankind from themselves if they will turn from this sin and believe that Jesus is God's son and that through Him you can be saved from an eternity void of God. The Bible teaches that you must be born again, saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus.
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And FYI to the guy with the "God Hates Jews" sign... In case you're too ignorant to recall... Jesus was a Rabbi, and that would make him a Jew. In fact, the Old Testament, you know... the first part of the Bible... is also known as The Torah. The Ten Commandments? That would be Moses... another Jew.
I swear, these morons don't have two brain cells to rub together. Amen.
If God hates fags, why did he make so many of them priests?
"I've said it before and I will say it again: If you don't allow me to marry the one I love, then you should give up your right to divorce. I strongly believe that we should start a campaign to declare divorce illegal.
Gays Opposing Divorce - GOD for short. That should piss 'em off, eh?"
Mark -- you may want to rethink your strategy. Who do you think you'd "piss off"? Certainly not the deeply religious; they do not believe in divorce. They would probably *support* your campaign.
You'd only succeed in alienating the "straight allies" upon whom the LGBT community is totally dependant for implementing ssm.
The straight allies have the same transient regard for marriage as do the members of the LGBT community who support it (certainly, not all gays and lesbians support ss "wannabe" marriage.)
Just TRY "taking divorce" away from them! Bye bye ssm.
The three wise men gave Joseph and Mary riches when they visited the baby Jesus. But what did the parents of the baby Brian in the next manger over get? Thanks for not complaining 'bout getting nothing.. And was it a joke on Noah or did Noah simply make a dumb mistake in carving out only one window in the Ark? Imagine the crap that went through that lone window! And why can't all peoples be allowed to pack a lunch and spend 3 days in a big fish? Could be a valuable source of hub caps. And wouldn't it have been more surprising to change water into a flock of colorful doves instead of into wine. I hate wine. And if Moses heard a voice in a burning bush, what did he hear in a big jesus house on fire? By the way, bushes can't talk...not even the burning ones. Take your bible and politely shove it where it'd be fun (but gross too) to watch you try to shove it. All you religious freaks go back to doing what you do best: beg for money.
Christians are pagans, pig-eating pagans at that. What with pig as the main course for their pagan feasts, now known as Easter and Christmas. Yet these bastards have no shame. If these are your moral leaders it is no wonder we end up in some unnecessary and endless war. It's just good to know that it's the children of these bastards who sign up for these wars, now that there's no draft.
Yeah, they're fightin' for freedom, y'know Christian freedom...The freedom to RAPE, PILLAGE MURDER AND TORTURE. This would be a joke if it weren't true and millions of SOB's just go along.
Oh yeah, don't forget to do your Christmas Shopping. Keep the war-mongering economy going.
"Let he who without sin cast the first stone". That about covers it, don't you think?
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"!!!!! That about covers it, don't you think?
Interesting site, bebeholmes @50, but there's still a problem.
Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for being gay, per YOUR interpretation. They were destroyed for their lack of hospitality, wanting to R*A*P*E the angels of the Lord. Don't believe me? Look in your Bible. Check out the Major and Minor Prophets of the Old Testament. I've done it, but I'm not going to make your job easy, since you're the "Biblical expert" by appearance. You DO know the Major and Minor Prophets don't you? Everything from Isaiah to Malachi.
Next, when you read Romans, Chapter 1, especially the last seven verses, start cheering Paul on! Fully agree with everything he says! THEN, read Chapter 2 verse 1. He's set you up to reveal your hypocrisy. For after all your foaming at the mouth over Chapter 1, he's saying "therefore you, Oh Christian, when YOU do these things, you are even worse than they!"
So, have you been reading your Bible through your brown-colored glasses to support your own bigotry, or do you wish to take off those stained and smelly glasses and read 1 John 4:8? "He who does not love, does not know God, for God IS Love." And I don't see any qualifications about loving only members of your faith. Seems it is an absolute statement about love for ALL people.
@68.Bx
Uh...no! But you can sure go with that palimony, partner, union thing.
How do we comfortably place "bash" and "christianity" in the same sentence with "bash" as the verb. Mahatma Gandhi, in one of his reflective moments did say that if all the people who claimed to be Christian did behave like Jesus Christ, the whole world would be Christian. We would not have had slavery and its successors, pedophilia within and outside the church and what is called gay bashing. We know that human sexuality, like eye color, skin color, height, intellect and many other traits cover a range. That is a fact in this twenty first century! WE do not have to like it but we must live with it. No amount of ranting from these gun carrying, illiterate and semiliterate, confused, loud mouths can change my skin color, height or head size. Homosexuality is a normal mammalian trait . Teh human is a mammal. Get used to it.
It is encouraging to see Gamefish42 weigh in with that viewpoint.
I'm sorry, but these people will never be happy until everyone believes as they believe. Since that wil NEVER happen, they will try with every means possible to convert us. I wish the religious nuts would just let everyone live their lives as they see fit. Will they hate what people do? Of course, but you are not God and you don't have the right to judge me or anyone else.
All the far right christian groups are just wacked out. I have been a troubled christian all my life until I read "You Don't Know Much About the Bible" and then went on to read Jesus Interrupted by Bart Ehrman. I am hooked on Bart Ehrman. I am now reading his book about God and suffering. What a read! I have three more book after this one.
Oh by the way, God loves Gays and Jews and everyone else no matter what the wackos preach. The christian right should just get over it; mind their own business and leave everyone else alone.
Tell me why atheism is bad again?
Coffeelady hits the nail squarely on the head!! Christians who believe in Jesus' teachings of love for all must surely feel nauseated by the rantings of these kinds of haters!!
God must be so proud of these followers who are spewing their hate in His name. i was, apparently mistakenly, under the impression that God was about love not hate.
@77 gay man
forget him. If he's that far into the closet, he'll be a serious drama queen.
I'm a buddhist. Can I get away with chanting for these people to get hit by a bus? One incontrovertable fact is that in the end, all of our actions have consequences. That is universal law. We need to speak out against injustice and hatred, but these people are guilty of slandering, hating and disregarding the dignity every human being possesses. The Christians forget all about Karma. It doesn't matter. Their fate is sealed. Their next life isn't going to be fortunate. I guess Ignorance is Bliss...for now
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another" (John 13:34).
-Jesus Christ-
Listen closely "Sign-Boy" and every single person of faith who professes to be saved by the sacrifice of Christ. You would do very well to heed THIS commandment. No earthly argument devised in the flawed hearts of mankind can provide some convenient little exception to this most clear and spiritually binding command from the earthly embodiment of your creator! Hate of another human being is unacceptable.
PERIOD. End of discussion.
The guy in the photo is rather cute. :-)
Well, let's see. Uhh, I think God gave His religion to the ethnic group of people known as Jews. Today's "Christians" who, if the guy holding the sign up about "God hates Jews" is a member of some so'called "Christian" group, and lifts a sign that lies about God, as he indeed did in the photo, then the young, apparently skin-head, Nazi type, no more believes in the God he misrepresents than did the young man's long-deceased mentor, Adolph Hitler.
Real Christians often call themselves (especially in the last few years or so, "Judeo-Christians, meaning that they follow the teachings of the "True Jew" (referred to by the Apostle, John to Jesus' real followers). Many are now coming back to the realization that Christians were in fact "grafted into the Olive Tree of Israel." Now, how does that sit with our neo-Nazi sign holder? He needs to visit a synagogue for a Shabbat or two and try to learn.
"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." - Ezekiel 16:49
Hmm... "arrogant, overfed and unconcerned"; How come you never hear these "Christians" railing so energetically against THAT??
Personally, I can get on board with punishing a bunch of folks who want to gang-rape a couple of angels. But God's fine with gay marriage.
Exactly bgbrobru Jesus was Jew his mother and father were jewish he kept the jewish laws and feasts and I agree that how can a christian say he loves God buts hates jews what will he say to Jesus when they stand before him
To Plasma001 (#22) The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment has nothing to do with what you're talking about. There are many good articles online explaining what the EPC in the 14th is. More directly to your point, there are many examples of unequal punishment for roughly analogous crimes. Robbing the local jewelry store of $50,000 is not the same crime as robbing an FDIC bank of $50,000, for instance, even though the dollar amounts are the same. The taking of the wallet you describe in your comment is one crime, the beating of the victim is another, and the shouting of slurs during the robbery is yet another crime that enhances the other two crimes. The last goes to a wholly separate motive, which has moved beyond simple robbery. Mens rea, or state of mind, is used in many criminal prosecutions.
I've said it before and I will say it again: If you don't allow me to marry the one I love, then you should give up your right to divorce. I strongly believe that we should start a campaign to declare divorce illegal.
Gays Opposing Divorce - GOD for short. That should piss 'em off, eh?
It might be easier if the radical right issued a list of groups, individuals and political philosophies they actually do like. Cut down on waste of time and anguish. It's a short list, I am sure. They have become like rabid, cornered rats, foaming at the mouth, unable to either deal with the amazing changes of the last 40 years or to offer any reasonable foundation for their political ideas. The word that comes to mind as I view and listen to the radicalism of the right is "impulsive." Their plan is simply to erupt whenever, wherever, however, like a muttering, sputtering, tantrum-throwing 3 year old. They will pick any target and throw about words of which they have no clue the meaning. Socialism, Nazism, Communism, Jesus, Family. Not a clue as to what those mean. I am a Roman Catholic with some serious issues with my church (revolving around women, gay rights, and wealth.) However, in my 57 years I have never heard anything like the hate speech generated by the radical right wing. These are dangerous, anti-American people. They would like to paint the center and left as un-American, but, in fact, the far right is gnawing at the foundations of democracy and liberty. It is shameful that moderate, slightly right-leaning Republicans are not more full-throated in their condemnation. I rank them with the average, law-abiding Muslim who will not denounce Al Quaeda. Both types believe - wrongly - that extremism will slither away on its own into the fetid mire from which it springs. As W.B. Yeats wrote in The Second Coming: "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity."
I thought Jesus was a Jew. Does God hate Jesus too?
Just askin'
#60 RC
"Ok. I think you all need to go back to bible school."
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But, I hated it the first time.
bebe, lesbians have the lowest incidence of HIV/AIDS on the planet. According to your logic, we must be truely blessed. Now can I marry my partner of 20 years so we can simply take care of each other?
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@64 fighty
And yet, the government is respecting one religion, christianity, over any other. Look back to the reports of high-ranking military officers promoting fundamentalist christian teachings at places like the Air Force Academy. There were a number of cases where fundamentalist christians had access to the White House in the form of people like Gary Bauer and Tony Perkins and James Dobson that no other religion had. Billy Graham was for decades known as the president's preacher! Maybe it's time to live up to the Constitution, and have equal access for all other religions. Let's see a parade of other religious figures entering the White House to get quality time with the president...muslims, hindus, mormons, buddhists, satanists, jews, jainists, scientologists, etc. What, that sounds "wrong"? Well, it's what the Consitution advocates, and we live in a pluralistic society, with followers of many religions now living in this country. Either all religions get equal treatment under our government, as the Consitution states, or none should get any special treatment at all.
Whenever asked "How will the marriage of two gays affect YOUR or MY marriage, or ANY ONE else's?"
These CC's (Cracker Christians) ALWAYS answer by saying something that has NOTHING to do with the question.
@ 59.vegasodds
"The Constitution has a provision in it about separation of church and state."
-You are INCORRECT sir.. The government may not respect ONE religion over another or over none...
"Reflecting a concept often credited in its original form to the English political philosopher John Locke [3], the phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation"[4] between church and state."
Wiki...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
You can get a copy of the Constitution from the Heritage Foundation for free...
HI
The United Kingdom is only slightly ahead of the US in the process of
outlawing religion and especially Christianity. This short, 5 minute
news piece from Britain documents the rise of “hate” crimes and the
beginning of persecution for people of faith there.
I encourage you to watch this short video:
http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnplayer.swf?aid=9425
I gotta say, if the Christians goal is to alienate everyone until there are no more Christians, they are doing a fine job. Keep up the good work!
Ok. I think you all need to go back to bible school. S&G was not destroyed because of gays. It was because people wanted to have sex with the 2 angels God sent. IF being gay was so bad God would have made it a commandment like the other ones that so many so called Christians continue to break. Lie, cheat, steal, KILL. Come on people clean up your on back yard before you condemn someone elses. Judge not less ye be judged. You are in for a rude awakening when you reach those pearly gates. God is all about love. God is a vengville God and will that vengance will come down hardest on those who are preaching hate and bigotry. Remember these are the excuses the Christians were using during the civil rights movement when they would go out and hang someone becuase of their skin color. This world would be a better place if theyveould preach about love and kindness and leave the judging to God. I'm done!!!!
As long as we are quoting the bible. God said to love your neighbor. Also He said do unto others as you wish them to do unto you? The Constitution has a provision in it about separation of church and state. Why is it the Republicons always try to legislate from a religious aspect. The same goes for Gay Marriage. The laws were being passed that did not force any church to perform gay marriages. The law was passed for the states to perform and recognize the marriage of gays. The religious right needs to worry about their churches and quit trying to dictate their beliefs on everyone else. Now I know why Bill Maher has the opinion of religion he talks about. Why do we who are not of their church have to be bound by their beliefs and rules. That was why the United States was formed. The colonists left England for the purpose of religious freedom. The Founding Fathers established the Constitution with that in mind. That is why they ahave a section in it covering separation of church and state. I want the religious right out of my personal life.
I am gay, and I will personally shoot any cracker Christian who violates the hate crimes act. So help me Goddess.
46.
bebeholmes
My God is better than your god.
#55
LOL
God hates ditto heads
#46
God hates conservatives.
YEah....during those 9 years of Christian school I just saw too much of ironies in teacher and school ministers... well, that's another story.
Only thing I asked you was to quote a bible where god actually said "HATE".
You can't even give me one line where the word "hate" appears. All are your assumptions. I read bible, took a test on it and I just DO NOT remember god saying "hate" any where.
So...do Christians ever get jealous, lie or cheat? Now, why aren't they being enforced by law??
Ten commendment says not to do those things.
Why is homosexuality such a big freaking deal that god hate it so much he is going to burn gays in hell but other stuff he said not to do doesn't seem to make you as upset.
Speaking of Sodom and Gomora... do you think only gay people are engaged in pervetic sex orgies? Sodom and gomora was not all about GAYS. Alright??
Unless you are going to sit out there (as an act of god's messanger) and condemn all porn industires weird sex orgies, gay people shouldn't be a target of this hatrism.
@49 Jaz P
Man, what a bummer of a day for you. First bebe tells you that God hates you, (by the way, he says God hates me too, so it's apparently a not-very-exclusive club), but then you also have Superman hating on you too. You'd better hope that Spiderman's spidey sense can protect you from the lightning bolts God will be sending your way, and from Superman's wicked left-cross, right upper-cut combo!
@51.Jaz P
One would think after 9 years of Christian School you would know how to read a Bible. I guess HE destroyed those cities because he liked the homos and the wickedness there. Whatever, believe what you like. Matters not to me, but will matter alot to you.
"Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens" Genesis 19:24. "Turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly" II Peter 2:6.
I still DO NOT see the word "HATE" :) What's up with that?
9 years of Christian Private school was good enough for me and I kinda had enough... thank you.
And who made that documentary who is that person assuring that that's where it happened?
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