The Thom Hartmann Program - Feb 26 2008
Hour One - Marc Morano www.epw.senate.gov Topic: Thom and Marc debate - Do Climate bills harm the economy?
Guest: Investigative Journalist Greg Palast www.gregpalast.com Topic: Exxon Shipping v. Baker: What's at Stake?
Hour Two - Mike Adams www.dradams.org Topic: Thom challenges Mike on his book - "FEMINISTS SAY THE DARNDEST THINGS"
Hour Three - Kathryn Joyce www.thenation.com Topic: Demographic Winter and the Christian Right...Christian conservatives predict a looming catastrophe as birthrates fall in Europe and Muslim immigration rises.
Laura Flanders is filling in for Thom Feb 27th, 28th and 29th 2008
- February 26, 2008








Barack Lies about $$, What else?
jj Gudat,
Obama's Line On Lobbyists is Misleading
http://www.alternet.org/election08/77492/
Obama claims that he doesn't take money from lobbyists. The truth is, he is as beholden to special interest groups as all of the other candidates.
Contributions made by the various industry sectors tell the real story in a presidential race. And Opensecrets.org shows that Obama is picking up gobs of money put on the table by these special interests -- including those involved in health care, which will surely have a lot riding on the outcome of the election and will expect to be heard after the election is over.Consider the sector called lawyers and law firms. Clearly, lawyers and law firms lobby on behalf of their own interests -- like fighting malpractice reform, which could again surface as a thorny issue for the new administration. Clinton and Obama have raised similar amounts from lawyers and law firms -- $11.8 and $9.5 million. McCain and Huckabee have taken far less. The health sector has also given to Obama, Clinton, and McCain. In the pharmaceutical and health product industries, contributions to Clinton total $349,000 and $338,000 to Obama. Again, McCain trails in donations at about $98,000, an indication that the sector sees the real action on the Democratic side of the ballot. Health professionals, which include doctors, nurses, and dentists, have given Clinton some $2.3 million and Obama $1.7 million.Last August The Boston Globe, in a piece by Scott Helman, took a hard look at Obama's contributions, noting that "behind Obama's campaign rhetoric about taking on special interests lies a more complicated truth." That truth revealed that as a state legislator in Illinois, a U.S. senator, and as a presidential aspirant, Obama had collected hundreds of thousands of dollars from lobbyists and PACs. Helman quoted an Obama campaign spokeswoman saying that after he experienced firsthand the influence of Washington lobbyists, he was taking a different approach to fundraising than he had in the past, and that "his leadership position on this issue is an evolving process." If Obama's leadership on campaign financing is indeed evolving, more news outlets should be following the evolution.
Sorry this is off-topic, after Bill Press repeating this lie, for the uptenth time this morning, I just can't take it!!
Is Barack any different then any other candidate, NO! But the rest don't claim to be!!!
McCain gets momentum in monetary support
Mc Cain announced that he received $2 million in contributions to his campaign after the disclosure in the New York Times....
Actually, I think a number of people picked up on what Thom said ---- that the issue is that it shows how McCain supports lobbyists. So they are looking fondly on him right now!
McLame Who??
jj Gudat,
Who cares what he does?? Are you really thinking about voting FOR him?? If his 'huggy-kissy pooh' with Bush & Rove didn't cure you, then Lieberman following him around like a good little lap-dog should have!
How many AAR, host have you heard make the statement that Obama doesn't take 'Special Interest' money?? Repeating the same LIES!! If Obama's "Distorting" the truth about this what else?? I can tell you, but you won't believe me! So go figure it out for yourself!
Start with the article: 'Subprime Obama' by Fraser, in The Nation! Then google those 3 'chief economic advisers'.
McLame -- cute
Actually, I said nothing about supporting McCain. I made a comment about the results reported after the article came out. The New York Times was punished and McCain gets a 'get out of jail free' because the 'issue' has come out.
The lobbyists, that I believe gave him money, saw beyond the 'pretend' issue of sex.
Dr Adams is full of it
Many women do not have children or get married. His criteria of work is skewed. His idea of non-discrimination is false. Women are actually better as managers. They are better as managing multiple tasks. Working with people. But, as with anything else, it all comes down to the individual.
The general rule is that men get management positions because they are men.
Women sometimes end up in management for the wrong reasons but most are highly qualified instead of just being the 'right' sex. The idea is that men will leave the company if not recognized and promoted.
Frankly, most jobs can be handled by either sex with no difference in performance.
I don't believe he did much research on the subject. Women were active on campus back in the 70's. Then, in the 80's, Phyllis Shclaffy (? sp) came around and tried to make all the Womens programs give equal time to home economics.
Title 19 was intended to give unbiased views based on sex or race. The Reagonites declared that it was being used to create manhaters who would take over the country! Phyllis Schlaffy (?sp) was put in charge of that too. Not that those she hired had any idea of what they were there for.
Reagonites also attacked child care --- of course, they declared it was used for letting women go out to lunch instead of raising children.
Republicans gave lip service to womens' rights - never voted 'for' any legislation. Reagan put a stop to that. During the Republican Convention, the Republican women ran around in their cute little suits (skirts!), gloves, hats and STOP SIGN buttons that said STOP ERA!
Reagan told women their job was to get a husband. Those on welfare or ADC needed to spend more time fixing themselves up to get a husband.
Isn't Anyone curious??
jj Gudat
Why, with both of the Long Standing Senators from Massachusettes, Strongly endorseing Obama, did the citizens of Massachusettes, vote overwhelmingly for Hillary??? I've copied her post on here before, will again if you want, A college Professor from Massachusettes, TigressGirl, said we've heard Obama's speeches before! From Deval, when he ran for Governor, 16 months ago! Most of them, word for word! Since elected, he's done none of what he promised!!
The NEGOTIATION stage of elections
during that period when candidates run for their party...
an electorate can either BE at the negotiating table.
or not.
But the corporate backers of your Democratic candidates... are negotiating.
...isn't that the negotiation stage?
when their financial backers & their electorate
negotiate
for their candidate's position?
& nobody is actually negotiating unless:
...they make demands
...& demonstrate intention & power.
Exactly what sort of POWER does the electorate have over Obama & Clinton?
Exactly what sort of desire to negotiate do the people demonstrate these days?
nothing. The Electorate is rolling over & squealing, "oh! wonderful, whatever you say sounds good to me! I sure hope you mean it!"
Exactly WHAT about that is a negotiation?
...that simply leaves the candidates to haggle with their corporate backers & party 'sell outs' for **what they can get away with**.
Nader is showing you what nobody is willing to put on the Table & asking, "are you serious? you don't even want to TALK about it??"
& the Democrats want to snivel their unfairly treated...
...getting good at that, aren't they?
Who the hell managed to convince Americans that the Revolution for Human Rights was... won? because, they certainly managed to figure out how to turn what could have *been* something... into a pack of self-centred & frightened wannabes.
More Deadly than Berlin Wall: Mexico-US Border Immigration Policy Brief on Humanitarian Crisis at the Border
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"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"
Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...
AARP duped its members on ....
AARP misled its oldster members on the efficacy of the awful Medicare "Drug Plan" which has proven to be nothing but a giveaway to the Pharmaceutical Industry. Ask any seniors looking at their empty medication bottle during the "Doughnut Hole" wherein they have to bear full cost of their medication pricetag.
AARP, actually an insurance company, just wanted to sell its own drug policy insurance to seniors and CASH IN ON ITS MEMBERS and FUTURE MEMBERS.
My neighbor is suffering because of the Medicare Drug Plan failures and its labyrinthine confusion of choices that only bait and switch when she just wants a stable choice that helps her consistently!
All the ads and mailers in the world will not erase the historic truth that AARP is just another insurance predator, and the worst kind, preying on our sick and weak elders!
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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt
*gasp* what were the odds?
wow.
just imagine what the Democratic Party is doing with the WTO & SPP without telling you?
"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"
Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...
AARP is an insurance agency first
AARP represents insurance companies before it represents seniors. Thom has mentioned this a few times. Many are not aware that this is the order of priorities with AARP. You need to be aware of this in order to make decisions that are 'supported' by the AARP so you can weigh them appropriately.
The prescription nightmare was put in to support the drug companies, not the people taking the drugs.
IIRC
Didn't AARP later withdraw its support of the plan??... after it had passed?
Mark Adams is a reactionary posing as someone who "cares"!
Mike Adams is a puffball and the moment Thom pricked him, puffed up even BIGGER!!! (Adams cried,"How dare you prick me! I ADOPT Southeast Asian girls!") Sheesh!
What a creep! So He expects us to adopt all the females in countries that abuse girls? Uh, what planet is the new refuge/orphanage going to be located on? What a loser.
Women are uncompen$ated in the home, underpaid in the workplace, and undervalued by the society, and preyed upon by thugs who get away with their crimes because the misogynist framework of our society prefers to pretend it's not happening! (Why -- in this Age of HIV-AIDS -- is rape still not considered a deadly assault?)
Misogynists should not be allowed to teach school; they should be shunned because in their dealings with children, they are psychological child molesters. Isn't a female child molested psychologically when she's led to believe she is not equal, not worthy, and responsible for any/every violence done to her? Isn't a male child abused when he's taught to carry on the misogynist creed?!
EGAD, Mike Admas was disgusting!
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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt
Couldn't find Obama's resume, but found this
http://www.rense.com/general80/web.htm
excerpted
<blockquote> .... Goolsbee is widely reported to have told Obama not to back a compulsory freeze on home mortgage foreclosures to help the struggling middle class in the current depression crisis, as demanded by former candidate John Edwards. Hillary Clinton has advocated a one-year voluntary freeze on foreclosures. Obama has offered counselors to comfort mortgage victims as they are dispossessed, citing the 'moral hazard' of protecting the public interest from Wall Street sharks.
By adding the infamous Skull & Bones secret society to his campaign roster, Obama, who bills himself as the candidate of change and hope, has attained a prefect trifecta of oligarchical and financier establishment backing for his attempt to seize the nomination of the Democratic Party for 2008. Obama's main overall image adviser and foreign policy adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission, and the mastermind of the disastrous Carter administration. Obama's wife Michelle is reputed to be closely linked to the Council on Foreign Relations. Behind the utopian platitudes dished up by the Illinois senator, the face of the Wall Street money elite comes into clearer and clearer focus....
From Wikipedia: 'Austan D. Goolsbee is an economist and is currently the Robert P. Gwinn Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. He is also a Research Fellow at the American Bar Foundation[1], Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and a member of the Panel of Economic Advisors to the Congressional Budget Office. He has been Barack Obama's economic advisor since Obama's successful U.S. Senate campaign in Illinois. He is the lead economic advisor to the 2008 Obama presidential campaign.'</blockquote>
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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt
remember its a political platform IS A NEGOTIATION
either THE PEOPLE start demanding what they want & NEED...
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or they'll get whatever gets left on the table when the corporations are done making demands of the candidates.
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your choice.
if people are willing to BELIEVE that the PARTY is their VOICE, then they've already LOST democracy.
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"Spread Love...
... but wear the Glove!"
Namaste,
BlueBerry Pick'n
can be found @ ThisCanadian
Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced
Learn. Think. Believe & Act...
In Washington state, Obama won caucus but Clinton...
In Washington state, Obama won the delegate caucus, but a while later Hillary won the primary election....Right?
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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt
What If...
Just in case the Republicans decide to steal the '08 presidential election, what will the progressive community do? Here's my idea: the timing will dovetail very closely with the upgrade to the HD TV format. We could all shut off our televisions until this is fixed. It sounds lame, but I don't think Americans are ready for a general strike. Wonder what Greg Palast would think of this. At least it will send a signal.
re tombyrne @2:38 -- GREAT!
I like it.
It's better than the notion I had a while back -- to put our TVs on stakes in our front yards -- art and commentary at the same time. But I like your idea best. It may be easy to do too since the cost of everybody switching to HDTV will hardly be affordable in this economy where gas and food and everything is skyrocketing! Who needs to spend on TV when radio and Internet are better info sources.
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The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.--Eleanor Roosevelt
Hint: LF is filling in, TH's Louise posts have CEASED till March
First of all while all the bloviating about how the DEMS can cede VICTORY into the JAWS of DEFEAT, the world of shit that DoD is facilitating in behest of the IRON TRIANGLE'S QUEST FOR PERPETUAL WAR is continuously replicating.
Bottom line, for the sake of both DOMESTIC and FOREIGN NATIONAL SECURITY matters, the hyena should step down, stop the distraction, cease feeding the CORPORATE MEDIA unquenchable appetite for tidbits that drives horserace bickering (funny I thought AAR was above this crap), halt the push poll robocalls and deceptive direct mass mailings that foster bigotry and divisiveness.
www.airamerica.com/thomhartmannpage/node/216#WhatYouDontKnowWillKillYou
www.samsedershow.com/node/2532/153546#comment-153546
Next, just to clarify, in contradiction to all the misinformation about Abolishing FISA Repealing 4th Amendment Probable Cause via the Protect America Act:
Where did FISA come from?
http://blogs.usatoday.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/13/editgrf14.jpg
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/02/our-view-on-sec.html
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/12/our-view-on-w-1.html
Telcos Fed Up ZAP TAPS
Ma Bell GAGGED
The 21st Century American Dream is to grow up to become a PROTO-FASCIST AUTHORITARIAN OLIGARCH like our hero the Almighty Vader-shrub, SIG shrub! SIG shrub! SIG shrub! SIG shrub!
Brilliant! Sign up join ranks -w- Wellstone + JFK2 v Skull&Bones
Right, you people who so effectively came together to achieve accountability for the deliberate negligence that led to the demolition of NYC's WTC where molten metal smoldered for weeks in a cloud of drain cleaner level toxic dust fog while the public was reassured it was perfectly safe, and bringing to justice those who suppressed evidence of the cover up in Shanksville PA where no bodyparts or 6 ton jet engines were recovered, not to mention the courts marshal of the conspirators who failed to intercept the UFO that entered the Whitehouse & Pentagon LEVEL 1 RESTRICTED AIRSPACE RAYTHEON - LOCKHEED MARTIN GROUND TO AIR PATRIOT MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM PROTECTED NO FLY ZONE from NORAD/NEADS as they had done as SOP numerous times in the months prior that 3 frames of surveillance video released to the public revealed DETONATED at the sole BALLISTIC REINFORCED 95% personnel relocated for renovations section of DoD HQ leaving a 16' entrance hole once again absent indestructible landing gear that the "OFFICIAL" CAVEMAN conspiracy theory proposes "EVAPORATED" on impact, you are calling for courageous leaders to come forward and stand up to overthrow the DLC DCCC DNC establishment responsible for stifling Kucinich's participation in debates in his run for POTUS, conspired to take IMPEACHMENT OFF THE TABLE and collaborated to leave Feingold swinging in the wind on his CENSURE of the POTUS for "WORSE THAN WATERGATE" FISA violations? Did I miss the vociferous umbrage about the recent "REVELATION" that Zelikow whitewashed the Kean-Hamilton Report in plain sight of the commissioners who went along lock step as Arlen Specter did on the Warren Report, without SUSTAINED OUTRAGE from your organizations?
BRILLIANT!!!
How can you call for "RADICAL CHANGE" when you are suffering cognitive dissonance regarding the criminals running the asylum and their Eichmanns in DEM clothing? Or is it that, you want INSIDE THE BELTWAY "INCREMENTAL CHANGE" like rolling back the 2000+ ILLEGAL signing statements, one by one?
Perhaps empowering the "ETHICS" committee and the FEC is the way to get at restoring HABEAS CORPUS, ya think?
All righty then. Here's your sign:
http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/images7/52warnings-condi_rice.jpg
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc7_sec.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XH8K7BZHL._SS500_.jpg
http://static.scribd.com/docs/2wde9h6p3c3kf.swf
http://www.killtown.911review.org/911smokingguns.html
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/6/26/with_thousands_of_new_yorkers_sick
http://sbutki.newsvine.com/_news/2007/03/26/633452-interview-with-penny-...
http://www.youtube.com/v/d3BD9KU5_9Y
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=4608078350117479236
Speaking of HABEAS CORPUS DELICTI, where's Jimmy Hoffa?
www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/jimmy_hoffa/4.html
Nacht und Nebel: www.tinyurl.com/ypxxjq
www.citizenagainstlies.com/?p=1497
America’s "Noble" Cause:
Preserving its Right to Murder, Exploit, Torture, and Impoverish with Impunity
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.
- Oscar Wilde
04/10/06 "ICH" -- -- I was involved in this exchange with a co-worker about two months ago. I was utterly perplexed at how this individual managed the obvious cognitive dissonance created by thinking that we are fighting to protect our “freedoms” while simultaneously holding the notion that non-violent dissidents “should be rounded up and shot”.
In retrospect, why was I so surprised? As a vehement critic of the United States government’s foreign and domestic policies, I have received numerous death threats from “patriotic” loyalists to the American Empire over the last year. Recently, a severely brain-washed US resident who maintains a site called American Jihad issued a “Farwa” (his spelling) against the editors of Counterpunch, Dissident Voice, and Uruknet and against dissident writers Mike Whitney and Kurt Nimmo. Many of my essays have appeared on Dissident Voice and Uruknet, so I suppose I am a target of the “Farwa” too.
Violent Extremists Abound
While many death threats issued by American hate-mongers may be hollow, the nations of the Middle East do not have the market cornered on fanatical ideologues who commit acts of terror. Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Michael Griffin, Paul Hill, Ted Kaczynski, Baruch Goldstein, David Lane, Donald DeFreeze, Clayton Waagner and Earl Krugel are but a few of America’s home-grown violent extremists. America, and often components of its government, have a history of assassinating dissidents who become too powerful as they pursue equality and human rights. Fred Hampton, Malcolm X, RFK, MLK, and Paul Wellstone each met a premature demise which ended their efforts to introduce real social justice into the Empire.
Your Mind is our Vessel
Actually, I suspect many of the ardent supporters of the American Empire truly believe that they are preserving and spreading noble principles like freedom, democracy, equality, and human rights. There is no shortage of propaganda to convince them of this “fact”. Delusions and illusions “generously” provided by the corporate-controlled mainstream media afford Empire loyalists with the opportunity to avoid the burden of independent thinking. Sound-bites, canards, propaganda, stereo-types, and white-washed versions of the truth supply their programmed minds with a virtually endless loop of rationalizations to justify their approbation of a morally reprehensible entity.
People who continue to nurse at the bosom of Lady Liberty, the noble symbol of an imaginary land which has never existed, rail against those who seek peace, social and economic justice, and human rights. In their perverse worldview, health care, safety, ample nourishment, and adequate shelter are reserved for a select segment of the population in the Empire’s homeland. Those of us who believe in a more just and equitable world are indeed a threat to the oppressive capitalist imperialism of the United States. To perpetuate the Empire’s military dominance and parasitic exploitation of humanity, our attempts to awaken and rally the masses must be stopped by any means necessary.
Often accusing proponents of a more just and humane world of seeking “entitlements” for the poor and oppressed, the foot soldiers of the Empire are actually struggling with virtually every fiber of their being to preserve what they believe to be their own entitlements. Since the concept of “might making right” reinforces their belief that their “special rights” supersede the Bill of Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it is time to identify and enumerate these exclusive privileges:
There you have it. Now the American Empire’s principal supporters and beneficiaries have their own “Bill of Rights”. Ironically, it has more than twice the number of rights guaranteed to all Americans under the original Constitutional Amendments. Since the true Bill of Rights is anathema to their cause, it is essential that the Empire loyalists’ “special rights” outnumber the rights protected by our Constitution.
A Severe Spiritual Malady
Certainly believing in America’s and its supporters’ entitlement to these “special rights” would qualify one as a sociopath (one with minimal concern for the welfare and feelings of others) within the world community. However, in the American Empire, those subscribing to such depraved and self-centered “rights” receive affirmation and acceptance.
Obviously this Bill of Rights II is my construct and does not formally exist. However, each of the entitlements I enumerated is necessary to enable the United States to exist in its current perverse form. If you truly support and pledge allegiance to the American Empire, this Bill of Rights II represents the core of your sociopolitical beliefs.
For those of you who embrace the notion that Divine Providence bestowed these “inalienable rights” upon you and your nation, I call upon you to search your souls. I challenge you to do a long and fearless moral inventory. If you do, and the maleficent elements of the United States of America have not managed to burn your conscience out of your psyche, I predict you will begin the journey to rejoin the brotherhood of humanity by renouncing your support of the American Empire.
If you are so narcissistic (or perhaps morally bereft) that you have no problem with the means by which the American Empire sustains its unregenerate existence, at least consider a pragmatic angle. The United States is pursuing a ruthless course which will eventually lead to a fierce and violent backlash, which will probably affect you. The 6.2 billion other members of the human race are only going to accept so much abuse before they strike back in a powerful way.
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12679.htm
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Buy "GOLD for Laura FUND" on OTC as GFLF
It's breaking my heart that Laura cant see the up side to linking the value of currency to a tangible product's worth or algorithm locked to productive output.
Perhaps if she OWNED SOME she would climb aboard the HALT DEBT CEILING ELEVATION bandwagon that includes the US TREASURY absorbing the FRB, thus ending the cycle where a handful of ILLUMINATI create DOLLARS out of thin air via fractional reserve smoke and mirrors, which the US POPULATION must pay interest on, NEVER BREAKING EVEN.
Corporations can sell out to CHINESE, House of Saud, et. al. via SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUNDS, but the Dubai Ports deal, US HIGHWAYS into foreign owned toll roads, WATER RESERVOIRS, GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!
Perhaps some gold in her hot little hands would help, ya think?
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=5547481422995115331
Who's Laura?
www.lauraflanders.com/pages/contact.html
www.lauraflanders.com/laura/pages/contact.html
www.lauraflanders.com/pages/articles.html
flanders.laura@gmail.com
Credit Crunch: What To Do About Wall Street
Liz Moyer, 02.14.08, www.forbes.com/2008/02/14/washington-congress-spitzer-biz-wall-cx_lm_021...
So who's to blame for the subprime mess? Banks? Investors? Regulators? Ratings agencies?
New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, in testimony to the House of Representatives finance committee, laid the blame at the feet of federal regulators and ratings agencies, who failed to stop the growth of the subprime mortgage bubble before it got out of control. And he said a swift resolution to the severe capital pressures the bond insurers are facing is necessary to stop a "tsunami" of problems in the financial markets.
Gov. Spitzer said he hoped a private effort by Wall Street banks to inject capital into some of the hardest-hit bond insurers could get done in the next three to five business days. If not, regulators would have to resort to the "good bank, bad bank" split of the bond insurers, as proposed Tuesday by Berkshire Hathaway's Warren Buffett.
"The clock is ticking," Gov. Spitzer said. "We will be forced to act." ...
Hillary to favor Bush 41 by pardoning the war crimes of the Bush 43 Administration just as Bill did for the Bush 41 Administration's IRAN-CONTRA infestation reincarnated in the WH and Carlyle Group TODAY. www.ringoffireradio.com
Congress enacted the War Crimes Act in 1996. That act defines violations of Geneva's Common Article 3 as war crimes. Those convicted face life imprisonment or even the death penalty if the victim dies.
The President is undoubtedly familiar with the doctrine of command responsibility, where commanders, all the way up the chain of command to the commander in chief, can be held liable for war crimes their inferiors commit if the commander knew or should have known they might be committed and did nothing to stop or prevent them.
Bush defensively denied that the United States engages in torture and foreswore authorizing it. But it has been well-documented that policies set at the highest levels of our government have resulted in the torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of U.S. prisoners in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo. ... www.alternet.org/module/printversion/41411
Bush Pardons Himself for Possible WAR CRIMES
Cafferty www.youtube.com/v/wBUkxvfL_eE
Skull&Bones www.youtube.com/v/cgPzA-qmWe4
PD-51 www.youtube.com/v/mMs733gFg
Spitzer www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/print_mojoblog.pl?url=http://www.motherjones...
Déjà Vu www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/print_mojoblog.pl?url=http://www.motherjones...
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/02/awful-new-photo.html
The Torture Playlist
Speaking of pardons, remember Scooter Libby who with Rove orchestrated the outing of CIA NOC Valerie Plame ... IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN:
Hillary Clinton is a crybaby! If she doesn't win Texas.........
Clinton may challenge Texas vote rules
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has raised the possibility of a challenge to Texas' primary and caucus rules just days before the contest, drawing a warning against legal action from the state's Democratic Party.
Top strategists for Democratic rival Barack Obama said Friday they supported the party's action, suggesting the Clinton campaign was trying to block the reporting of caucus results.
Aides to Clinton said earlier this week they were alarmed at the lack of clarity about many of the caucus rules and expressed their concerns on a conference call with Obama's staff and state party officials. Texas has a two-step voting process, with a primary and then caucuses shortly after the polls close.
Specifically, Clinton aides questioned a provision allowing caucus attendees to vote to move the location if they choose to do so, and whether people who had cast so-called "provisional ballots" in the primary would have their votes counted in the caucus.
They also expressed concern about the automated phone system precinct chairs would use to call in the results of each caucus, saying the party hadn't yet trained anyone to use the system properly.
Clinton political director Guy Cecil said he asked party officials to spell out the rules in memo form and to send them to both campaigns.
"We want to see the results in writing, and we reserve the right to challenge something if we don't believe it reflects something that was discussed on the call," he said, insisting that if there were clear problems with how the caucuses were being run, "you are allowed to say something about it."
Cecil on Friday denied that the campaign planned to sue the party, which will manage roughly 8,700 caucuses Tuesday evening.
"There were no veiled threats of lawsuits of any kind," Cecil said of the conference call.
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the Clinton campaign was trying to minimize the results of the caucuses. The former first lady and her team have made clear their unhappiness with caucuses, believing that they cater to the hard-core party activists who tend to support Obama. The Illinois senator has won 13 caucuses so far, while Clinton has won just two.
"This takes it to a new level, which is they don't want the people who are participating in those caucuses to have their results reported in a timely fashion. And I assume that's a very self-serving decision," Plouffe said.
Texas party officials said they believed Cecil was threatening legal action and wrote a letter to him and to Obama senior strategist Steve Hildebrand reflecting that concern.
"If it is true that litigation is imminent between one or both of your campaigns and the Texas Democratic Party, such action could prove to be a tragedy for a reinvigorated democratic process that is involving a record number of participants here in Texas and across the nation," party attorney Chad Dunn wrote. "Litigation regarding the TDP could cripple the momentum of a resurging Texas Democratic Party and ultimately the November 2008 election."
The letter also noted that many of Clinton's senior campaign advisers in Texas had helped to develop the rules governing the state's caucus system. A Texas party official also noted that former President Clinton won the state's caucuses in 1992 and 1996 following the same rules.
Texas has 193 delegates up for grabs Tuesday. Of those delegates, 126 will come from the primary, and 67 from the caucus.
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John Lewis switches support to Obama
My congressman and personal hero, John Lewis (D-Atlanta, GA), decided to officially pledge to switch his "superdelegate" vote to Barack Obama, after having previously supported Hillary Clinton, when Georgia went overwhelmingly for Obama (and Lewis' district: 109,581-35,668 in Fulton County, 113,278-34,098 in Dekalb County). He's a little late to Barbara Boxer's game, but better later than never to support democracy!
There are several NASTY letters in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution today at http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/printedition/2008/03/03/lettsed0303.html
I wrote two letters, one to the AJC:
Dear Editor:
I find the letters published 3/3 in response to Rep John Lewis' decision to honor the democratically-expressed will of the Democratic primary voters in Georgia very offensive. Lewis understands better than anyone the importance of citizens' voting rights and literally shed blood in the cause. I am glad he has decided to put aside his political loyalties to vote with his constituents--who voted overwhelmingly for Senator Obama. I congratulate Congressman Lewis for standing up for democracy in this primary. And no, I did not vote for Senator Obama in the primary nor am I an African-American. Lewis' choice is the best for all Americans.
and one to Congressman Lewis:
Congressman Lewis, thank you for having the courage to abide with the will of the primary voters in casting your "superdelegate" vote at the Democratic convention this year. I myself did not vote for either Senators Clinton or Obama (I voted absentee ahead of time for John Edwards), but I think this is absolutely the right decision. The "superdelegate" system is unfortunately undemocratic for our Democratic party and should be changed. In the meantime, I think more "superdelegates" should follow in the footsteps of you and Senator Boxer in promising to follow the will of your constituents. This is good for democracy, good for the Democratic Party, and good for America. Ignore the racially-charged invective from some quarters. I am deeply grateful as a "small-d" democrat and a "capital-d" Democrat for your choice. As always, I am proud of you as an American. Thanks and kudos!!!!!!