The Thom Hartmann Program - Friday -June 22

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By Louise Hartmann

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Coming up - Monday - June 25 - on The Thom Hartmann Program - I'll be challenging Ann Coulter who is saying Liberals are GODLESS. Gray Brechin is dropping by about FDR's New Deal Project - Monday is the anniversary of the Fair Labor Standards and Scott Ritter is here with his new book Waging Peace - The Art Of War for The Antiwar Movement

Plus The Best of the Rest of the News and your calls...right here on The Thom Hartmann Program…your radio support group for "We the People"

June 22, 2007
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haha!

Thom do you like modest mouse? Ha! they have been my favorite band for about 5 or 6 years now. I heard the lead singer is a jerk in real life, and their not as good in concert unfortunatly

By rexymeteoriteJune 22, 2007 - 12:23pm

9 to 1

9 hours of conservative talk to 1 hour of liberal talk?

If you ask me, that's actually a good thing :coolsmile:. FIVE years ago it was 100 to 1.

We should be celebrating, Thom!

THANK YOU AIR AMERICA, NOVA M, DEMOCRACY NOW, HEAD ON, WHITE ROSE, and even RADIO POWER.org.

THANK YOU ATRIOS, MEDIA MATTERS, DAILY KOS, TRUTH OUT, CROOKS AND LIARS, etc. etc etc.

THANK YOU WORLK LINK TV, AND FREE SPEECH TV, and Dish Network for carrying BOTH channels!

Anybody heard of these five years ago?

9 T0 1 isn't good enough though, so we should never stop putting our views out there until its 1 to 1!

But aren't we entitled to pat ourselves on the back a little? We've come a long way baby!

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 12:26pm

Non-Press Release - I Am Not A Candidate for President

I know how get a lot of media attention if I am going to run for president - don't announce my candidacy and say that I have no intention of running at this point in time. It is working fabulously for Michael Bloomberg, Fred Thompson, and Al Gore.

In fact, the recent NPR story by "reporter" (and Fox commentator) Mara Liasson, on the Democrats speaking at the Take Back America Conference, completely ignored many announced presidential candidates. In particular, it ignored, Mike Gravel, who got one of the biggest and most favorable responses from the audience - bigger than some of those candidates that the Snooze Media have chosen to make the front runners.

So what was NPR's next story? It was a long and detailed report about the presidential non-candidate, NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Non-candidates Fred Thompson and Al Gore have also had dozens of solo stories on their non-candidacies, while candidates Dennis Kucinich, Mike Gravel, Chris Dodd and many others get ignored.

Hmmm, I have often felt that I could do a much better job than most presidential candidates. So, today I am making a major announcement - I have no intention of running for President in 2008 at this time.

I am available for interviews to discuss my non-intentions and will be making other major non-announcements at a series of non-press conferences. Please contact me as soon as possible. Contributions to my non-campaign gladly accepted.

By Jeff in DenverJune 22, 2007 - 12:27pm

Don't forget Nader

He declared this week that he's "considering a run", hoping, I guess for 8 more years of right-wing rule.

By TOJJune 22, 2007 - 12:51pm

Votes Count (Mostly)

I am of the belief that Corporate interference in our government is the root of ALL of our problems - from Iraq to healthcare to the environment and beyond.

Our votes count (when they ARE counted) to get officials into office, but they are not affecting POLICY the way they should be. Who, but pharma, benefits when Medicare cannot negotiate prices for medicine? Not the American people. Who, but Big Oil, benefits when OUR tax dollars support their massive profit margins? Not the American people.

And who basically wrote those bills? They did.

We need Publicly funded elections. We need Campaign Finance Reform and Ethics reform. We need to get corporations, who do not vote as an entity, out of government. How can we allow money have more power than a vote when deciding the policy of this nation?

TJ in Bethlehem

By bittermanJune 22, 2007 - 12:42pm

I'm with you TJ

I'm with you man, but how can we get our representatives who got into their current office in large part due to the massive donations they recieved from corporate interests and/or lobbying firms to champion the cause of publicly funded elections. Sure there are a few charismatic politicians (such as Bernie Sanders) who can get elected without those influences but they are in such a small minority that I don't see it happening. I fear that we are caught in a malestrom of corporate influence fighting the current to get out is going to be nigh impossible.

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 12:59pm

War on the Wealthy

They were discussing the "War on the Wealthy" this morning on CNBC. It's about time since there has been a war on the middle class since Regan was president. Don't back down, don't be afraid to stand up and say yes, it's about time to reclaim this country for the majority of the hard working people.

By TJonKPTKJune 22, 2007 - 12:50pm

Progressive radio

I am shocked that Thom or Bernie Sanders failed to mention the bill in the House today for fm station licenses to be made available to non-profits. This was on the Democracy Now program this morning with a spokesperson for Promethius Radio Project . This is such an opportunity for progressives.

By cranky kateJune 22, 2007 - 12:51pm

Walk the line ... Hatchet job ...

If progressive legislators walk the walk they get what Cynthia McKinney got. Cut off at the knees by the right and abandoned by the left gatekeepers.

When leader of the Senate Reid told Charlie Rose that "HIS" idea of a windfall OIL profit tax was a BAD IDEA, I was stunned. Then when Pelosi failed to get a binding timeline attached to the "EMERGENCY" war profiteering bill, my faith in the DEM PARTY was irreparably shattered.

The fact that Sanders will not entertain impeachment, at this point is irrelevant since other than Kucinich, nobody on the hill has consistently taken their oath to the constitution seriously. NOBODY!!!

So you say that's the way politics is done inside the beltway. Well then its time to have MAYORS and GOVERNORS take back their authority under FEDERALIST principles. Congress determines the NATIONAL BUDGET for education, scientific research, Medicare, subsidies for local police and prisons. So that's their leverage over state government. If the representatives fail to deliver on those stipends they will be held accountable by their local constituents. WE THE PEOPLE, the local constituents can authorize our state officials to diss ALL the feds until our representatives start walking the walk.

Let's see how real the polls are about how many WARMONGERS remain. Lets cut away the wheat from the chaff already. These wishy-washy fair-weather progressives that don't deliver on their rhetoric, must be culled.

How can 75% of the populous who are self acknowledged doves, stand idly by as nearly 65% of the GNP is allocated to PENTAGON business annually? That money cant even be audited?

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http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/2001.html

September 10, 2001 - Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announces that the Pentagon has lost track of $2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS of military spending.

"On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.
He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.
"In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.
Rumsfeld promised change but the next day â€“ Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.
Just last week President Bush announced, "my 2003 budget calls for more than $48 billion in new defense spending."
More money for the Pentagon, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports, while its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends.
"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.
$2.3 trillion â€” that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America." - CBS (01/29/02)

Rumsfeld: "According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." - DoD (09/10/01)

(See also: May 4, 2001 - PNAC member Dov Zakheim is sworn in as Comptroller and CFO for the Department of Defense; 9/11 - Pentagon is hit right in the middle of only retrofitted section, important budget information located in the damaged area, attack came near the end of fiscal year, fatalities included civilian accountants, bookkeepers and budget analysts; Killtown's: Flight 77 Theories - Motives)

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City and County Council and Related Resolutions Opposing Preemptive/Unilateral War in Iraq

ips.org/ ... citiesforpeace resolutions

Other Resolutions: Universities -- Labor -- International

New York passed

Buffalo

Danby

Greenburgh

Ithaca

Mount Vernon

New Paltz

New York City

Nyack

Plattsburgh

Rochester

Rockland County

Rosendale

Syracuse

Tompkins County

Woodstock

Binghamton

Brighton

Danby

...

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Cities with Peace Resolutions

citiesforprogress.org/ ... 111

States with Peace Resolutions

California
Iowa
Maryland General Assembly
Massachusetts
Vermont

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State Labor Federations

S.C. AFL-CIO Resolution in Support of Military Troops
South Carolina AFL-CIO

Washington State Labor Council calls for an end to the United States occupation of Iraq
by David Groves, WA State Labor Council

Ohio AFL-CIO Takes Antiwar Stand and expresses interest in USLAW National Labor Conference Against the War in Iraq

Oregon State Federation of Labor Resolution Supporting the Troops and in Solidarity with Iraqi Unions
Oregon State Federation of Labor, AFL-CIO
October 28th, 2005

Wisconsin State AFL-CIO Calls for End to War and Occupation
Wisconsin State AFL-CIO
July 7th, 2005

IN SUPPORT OF LABOR RIGHTS IN IRAQ Resolution Adopted by Wisconsin AFL-CIO
Wisconsin State AFL-CIO
July 7th, 2005

Resolutions adopted by the Conventions of the Washington State Federation of Labor and the American Postal Workers Union, August, 2004, both introduced by the Seattle local of the APWU
September 9th, 2004

BUILD UNITY AND TRUST AMONG WORKERS WORLDWIDE
25th Biennial Convention of the CA State Federation of Labor, AFL-CIO
July 16th, 2004

BRING THE TROOPS HOME - CA Federation of Labor

By SingSingJune 22, 2007 - 3:05pm

Help. PUll up program on net and yesterday and today

it comes up on a recorded Rhandi Rhodes and then shuts off. Is something amiss with the internet stream. CAN'T GET YOUR PROGRAM ON THE INTERNET SINCE 2PM CT 6/21/07. JUST R. RHODES SAYING WE GET THEIR MAIL. THEN STOPS. WHAT GIVES??????????

By bjobottsJune 22, 2007 - 1:04pm

You can also stream thom

You can also stream thom through Nova M

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 1:20pm

Try here

www.ktlk.com

"Sometimes hipness is what it ain't"

By oaktownbumpetteJune 22, 2007 - 2:32pm

Which came first - morality or religion?

Let me preface this with the fact that I am a Christian. When Thom posed the question (Which came first - morality or religion?) yesterday, I thought he would go further than he did. I have been thinking about it in connection with the idea that liberals think that everyone is basically good (I think that - but flawed - needs to be added to that) and conservatives think that everyone is basically bad. My conclusion is that morality came first. The liberals of the time tried to get everyone to accept that laws were a good thing. When it was hard to get people to look out for anything but their own interest, religion was born as a way to secure the common good. If people knew that they would have to answer to an omniscient being, they were more likely to do what was right than if they only had to be concerned about getting caught by other people. Therefore, religion was born out of necessity as a crutch for society to fall back on when laws were not enough. That being said, the question is - Is George W. Bush really a Christian, since he doesn't even care about getting caught by an omniscient being?

By msho1952June 22, 2007 - 1:07pm

Agreed

Furthermore, I believe that morality precedes religion in human development. Long before a children learn about their religion, they learn to share and not to hit. I believe that later on, they associate these rights and wrongs with their deity.

"Sometimes hipness is what it ain't"

By oaktownbumpetteJune 22, 2007 - 2:31pm

Good place to stream thom!

Thom on AM 1090

http://www.am1090seattle.com/

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:09pm

Free Speech

A fundamental concept in the Constitution is free speech. Nobody wants to infringe on this right, but in fact, there are limits. The example cited all the time is that you can't yell fire in a crowded theater if there is no fire. The idea there, I believe, is that you can't unnecessarily create a panic in which someone may be harmed. Furthermore, there are laws concerning libel and slander. You can't impugn someone maliciously. Add to that, there are copyright and trademark laws that limit your right of free speech to use somebody else's free speech. So, with the right of free speech comes the responsibility to not harm others with free speech.

There are other issues with free speech. When the Supreme Court decided that money equates to free speech, they decided that some people (wealthy people) have a greater right to free speech than other (less wealthy) people. When Reagan recinded the Fairness Doctrine, he made free speech unbalanced and uncontrollable.

So my question is this: how is (some) political talk radio different from yelling fire in a crowded theater? Say someone gets on a soapbox and delivers a speech that causes a riot. The speaker would probably be arrested. But if the same speech were delivered on talk radio, it would be dismissed as free speech. Is it possible to tame talk radio without infringing on free speech?

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 1:13pm

most of you folks are new here!

welcome!

good to see all you new folks on the this thread.

the phone-in polls a good idea, louise, try one on the blog thread.

i like Dennis, i support him. especially his efforts to inpeach cheney recently!

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:14pm

I like him too

I would vote for Edwards or Richardson because I think they have good ideas.

I would vote for Obama because I think his oratory skills could bring the country together the way Kennedy and Reagan did.

I would not vote for Clinton or Gore. I don't know the rest.

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 1:25pm

Call to my Representative in Ohio

Today I called my Republican representative in Ohio. I usually call him and my Senator's a couple of times a week. Sometimes I call to express my opinion about the Iraq occupation, other times it's about the outrage of the week; sometimes it's a laundry list of everything.

Today I called to express my support for Representative Conyers and his investigation of vote caging by Karl Rove and Tim Griffin, the illegal use of RNC email accounts and Cheney's latest claim that his office is not part of the Executive Branch of government. I requested that the representative support Kucinich’s' efforts to impeach VP Cheney.

As I made my rant, the young man on the phone stifled a laugh when I got to the part about Cheney. After I was finished I asked him why he laughed. He replied that he thought Cheney's claim was baseless given his understanding of the constitution. I was startled for a second and then asked if he'd received many phone calls on this issue, given that it's not likely to be covered in the mainstream media. He replied that yes, he has taken allot of calls similar to mine and will pass my views on to the representative.

After I hung up I felt so good about that phone call. Usually I end the call wondering why I bother calling my Republican representative. Does he really listen to my progressive democrat opinions? And does he care?

I was lifted up by the moment I shared with a young man, who works for who I consider to be "the enemy". I realized that perhaps we are at long last becoming the majority in America. All of this with one simple phone call!!

Peace,

River

By wolfe61June 22, 2007 - 1:19pm

Dennis Kucinich

I would vote for Dennis Kucinich, he is the only candidate that voted against the Illegal war in Iraq.

By Wes ForsterJune 22, 2007 - 1:23pm

Diabolic Duo

Rogues Gallery: Diabolic Duo Dark EvaderZany is a a most unusual manHe really thinks he's beyond the reachOf the law of this his native landAll the more reason for us to impeach. Morality AbnormalityPush claims to be on moral high groundWith no federal funds for stem cell research But it's only a feeble cover-up For his precious privatizing perch. Yet sadly, he pleases the credulous quarterOf the masses addicted to obeying powerWho swallow all his talking pointsLike baby birds in a shaded bower. June 21, 2007

By hughseayJune 22, 2007 - 1:26pm

Dennis Kucinich

thats my vote :)

By rexymeteoriteJune 22, 2007 - 1:26pm

If only there wasn't a MSM

The media won't give Kucinich a second of air time yet if sounds like a lot of Thom's listeners would vote for him. I think this is a news item.

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 1:29pm

huh, Notice that the

huh, Notice that the supposed leader in the Polls, didn't get so many votes today.

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 1:29pm

instant run off

the next time you do a straw poll how about an instant run off.

Kucinich

Edwards

"...that whenever you are engaged in work that serves humanity and is for the building of humanity, it has dignity and it has worth." MLKing,Jr AFSCME Memphis Sanitation Strike, April 3, 1968

By CharlieNineJune 22, 2007 - 1:29pm

I'd vote for Edwards

He has defined his policy plans in more concrete terms than most of the other candidates

http://www.thepeacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 1:30pm

Obama

You gotta go with Obama, he's got that charismatic quality that we haven't seen since Kennedy. I think more that just a good policy maker he could really change the attitudes of ALL Americans.

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 1:32pm

Speaking of Instant Runoff Voting

Wouldn't it be great to have this in place by the 2008 election? Then it wouldn't matter if Bloomberg or Nader decided to throw their spoiler hats into the ring. We could all "vote our conscience" without worryting that another [fill in appropriate noun here] would end up in the White House.

http://www.peacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 1:32pm

Amen

But wouldn't it be funny if a third-party candidate won as a result?

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 1:38pm

Instant Run off voting would

Instant Run off voting would make a HUGE difference in the primary! Because it seems clear that Edwards or Obama would be way out in front of Hillary.

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 1:36pm

If there were public funding of elections

she might not be in the top five candidates, in fact, Kucinich or Gravel might be leading the pack.

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 1:40pm

Yay for Ike!

good ol dude mostly. ;

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:39pm

Hearing all the talk about

Hearing all the talk about wishing Gore gets in to the race I think back to 2000 Gore did not try to look to different from Bush..

This is the triangulation at its worse. I like what I have heard from Gore since he lost and is not running.

"...that whenever you are engaged in work that serves humanity and is for the building of humanity, it has dignity and it has worth." MLKing,Jr AFSCME Memphis Sanitation Strike, April 3, 1968

By CharlieNineJune 22, 2007 - 1:41pm

Is that really true?

Gore was vociferously attacked by the DLC for "veering left" because his convention speech was so progressive.

Bush worked overtime to pretend to be like Gore, not the other way around. Basically, Bush tried to present an "I care for the ordinary guy" image and at the same time make Gore look more like, well, Bush. The media worked hard to echo that kind of messaging, too. When Bush lied and Gore told the truth, the media painted Gore as the liar. When Bush pretended to be "compassionate", the media didn't question it, but tried to pretend that Gore was just a patrician who thought he was better than the rest of us.

Nothing Gore said or did actually reinforced that message, but it didn't matter as long as the media told us that's what he was doing.

I've certainly had my complaints about Gore in the past, but if you go back and look at his 2000 campaign material, his videos, his speeches, the debates, what you see is a stark comparison between Bush - a lying scoundrel who couldn't defend his own policies and looked like someone who only knew how to recite his memorized talking points - and Gore, a knowledgeable, thoughtful, and passionate defender of ordinary people. Gore wanted to preserve Social Security, Bush wanted to privatize it. Gore talked about protecting the environment, Bush wanted to deregulate everything. And so on.

AC
More liberal media at The Sideshow.

By AvedonJune 24, 2007 - 12:10pm

Obama?

the deal with Obama is his crew are all 'new' players in the power game.

Hil is a closed shop.

everyone else is inbetween.

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:41pm

Just like Carter

Remember all the problems he had with appointments like Burt Lance and Ham Jordan.

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 1:44pm

IRV in the primaries

I hadn't even thought about how Instant Runoff Voting might affect the primaries. That would be AWESOME. I'm sure we'd get a totally different -- and superior -- result.

http://www.thepeacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 1:41pm

we got to fight this economically

the real prob is the money boyz making law.

really that simple is'nt it?

we need some bucks...

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:44pm

Election agenda

Paper ballots

Public financing

Instant runoff voting

And last but not least, a media that doesn't try to pick the president for us.

http://www.thepeacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 1:48pm

ooops!

Repeat post -- sorry!

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 1:50pm

Just like Carter

yup!

good thing to remember!

but basically we need wayyy more change

then they can bring about. we're in need of faster govermance.

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:50pm

straw poll

I'm very excited to hear all the people calling in for Kucinich - I was trying to myself. He is informed, honest, peaceful - a true progressive. My husband and I support him 100%, and three very different individuals I discuss politics with at my workplace, as well. This business of "he can't win" is silliness - its throwing out the democratic process before it has a chance. I hope that Thom will have him on sometime (my two favorite liberal voices together). I really don't think there's any campaign conspiracy here, as Thom sort of alluded to. I think its true passion.

By TWindelbornJune 22, 2007 - 1:51pm

!

in terms of what we can really do...

blogs still forming the interconnections and skills i see.

Bernie has a nice site but no two-way chat or blog threads. amazing eh?

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:55pm

Repeat post -- sorry!

no biggie, no sweat.

By Sunshine JimJune 22, 2007 - 1:57pm

"Electable"?

Kind of disappointing that Thom dismissed the definitive result of the straw poll. It showed democracy the way the US Constitution intended, not as it has been compromised by corporate media.
Scary that so many seemingly reasonable people buy the antidemocratic notion of "reasonable" or "top tier" candidates. This is pseudo-savvy realpolitik horse betting, not democracy. A candidate is electable if you vote for him or her. NO ONE may narrow your candidate choices in a democracy - not other voters, not corporate presstitutes

By ellwortJune 22, 2007 - 2:04pm

a media that doesn't try to pick the president for us.

http://www.thepeacealliance.org
Submitted by cinea1 on June 22, 2007 -

I was proud of my Union sisters and brother that heckled Chris Matthews earlier this week during his questioning of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary told him they want you to ask questions that are important to them.

"...that whenever you are engaged in work that serves humanity and is for the building of humanity, it has dignity and it has worth." MLKing,Jr AFSCME Memphis Sanitation Strike, April 3, 1968

By CharlieNineJune 22, 2007 - 2:05pm

Heckling

I was proud of my Union sisters and brother that heckled Chris Matthews earlier this week during his questioning of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary told him they want you to ask questions that are important to them.

I saw that clip. That was so great. More audiences should react that way to Matthews and his goofy questions.

http://www.thepeacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 2:24pm

Did you see the clip of O'Reilly

getting owned by the 16-year old high school student?

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 2:30pm

It should be obvious to

It should be obvious to everyone that Ralph Nader needs to explain that exorbitant Ramada bill when he was touring Nebraska. $319.67 for movies? Come on. What's going on there? According to the non-Presidential records he didn't even order shrimp or champagne. Nothing. The recountings made by the ktichen staff reveal utter frustration and dissatisfaction, as they sat around waiting for the call which never came - all the while being heckled by the bellboy who had recently earned his GED and told his father he wasn't going to drive the tractor anymore. Him sitting there flapping a ten dollar bill, which he claims was the Ralph Nader tip, through the kitchen swing-door every fifteen minutes.

Once this is resolved, I sincerely hope we will all vote for Nader's Kucinich. As it clearly needs the attention.

Alberto, take us away.

By tromperJune 22, 2007 - 2:31pm

somethig I said

By CharlieNineJune 22, 2007 - 2:19pm

Nader hater?

Unless Thom voted in Florida in 2000, why does he feel the need to "apologize" (his word) for voting for Ralph Nader?

By hansPDXJune 22, 2007 - 2:20pm

Highest potential

Thom, I have to disagree with you. I think Republicans absolutely believe government is there to help people achieve their highest potential. it's just that the group of people whose potential they care about is very narrow. I doubt Cheney would have achieved his financial potential without the government awarding him no-bid contracts.

The Republican Party is a clique party -- concerned with the welfare of a select few rather than the welfare of the entire public. The truth is, they don't believe in competition. Competition threatens their place of privilege. They believe in protecting their exclusive group, and they're more than happy to use government to do it.

http://www.thepeacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 2:21pm

The problem isn't the Republican Party

The problem is citizens who don't think critically, who don't question what they are told, who don't care or don't want to get involved in political activities. As Bill Clinton once said, "when people think they vote Democratic."

By terrabyte1June 22, 2007 - 2:28pm

No apology is needed for 2000 Nader vote

Gore's traingulation kept him looking to similar to the Conneticut cowboy. He was adjusting his debate stradegy based on the SNL parody of his debate preformance.

If the GORE ran as as the post 9/11 GORE I and any body else that voted for Nader would have voted different ly. Unfortunately the post 9/11 Gore isn't running. We need canidates with the Welstone Fire in their belly.

"...that whenever you are engaged in work that serves humanity and is for the building of humanity, it has dignity and it has worth." MLKing,Jr AFSCME Memphis Sanitation Strike, April 3, 1968

By CharlieNineJune 22, 2007 - 2:35pm

If we continue to blame

If we continue to blame Nader for the Democtic losses and don't listen to the BLUE GRIT of the Democratic Party the Next time we get SCREWED it won't be by THOM HARTMAN

"...that whenever you are engaged in work that serves humanity and is for the building of humanity, it has dignity and it has worth." MLKing,Jr AFSCME Memphis Sanitation Strike, April 3, 1968

By CharlieNineJune 22, 2007 - 2:46pm

Kucinich for President

I intend to vote for Dennis Kucinich. He is the only candidate that actually walks his talk.
He is a true progressive. I just bought a Kucinich for President shirt and will wear it proudly.
I wish progressive radio would him more on air time.

"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery , none but ourselves can free our mind."

By phiJune 22, 2007 - 2:50pm

I had to run and pick up my

I had to run and pick up my kids. The are NO progressive format stations in Pennsylvania. Thom is only aired live in Pittsburgh. So who won the blogger contest today?

By Jeffinator1June 22, 2007 - 3:06pm

Re: I had to run and pick up my

I had to run and pick up my kids. The are NO progressive format stations in Pennsylvania. Thom is only aired live in Pittsburgh. So who won the blogger contest today?

Winner:

War on the Wealthy

http://www.thepeacealliance.org

By cinea1June 22, 2007 - 3:23pm

Will

Hartmann send Ann Coulter to go screaming madly bashing herself into wall after wall as she is driven into a frothing rage causing her to devour the microphone as she declares shes a fag trapped inside a womans body having realized she never did and never will make any sense in any way?!....

OR!

Will,

bewildered and virtigoed into a daze of torrets style banter by the sheer ludicrisity of Coulters side of the debate and unfathomable unwillingness to be reasonable or non-assinign, will Thom accidently call her "Toots"?!

Find out next on tomorrows show, same bat time, same bat channel. Wouldnt miss it.

By madgardenerJune 24, 2007 - 7:45pm